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Title: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: The Broken One on March 05, 2013, 09:36:40 AM
another site has a poll posted that will like last year probably get printed out and presented to the committee at the upcoming meeting.....

lets see what the views are here... i went with #4


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: hiking on March 05, 2013, 10:26:52 AM
I also like #4, I'm going to get one of those rubber chickens also.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: IrishAyes on March 05, 2013, 10:32:25 AM
I like 4 also. I'm sure the guys down south will want an earlier season though. Seems that the meeting in Galloway (where the regs are voted on) is overloaded with guys from the south (stands to reason as Galloway is much closer to them than the northern guys) and they have more input from having more people voicing their opinion from that way.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Hunter 2 on March 05, 2013, 02:36:25 PM
I prefer to Fluke fish later into September while waiting for the Stripers and Tog to show up. I tend to  catch larger Fluke later in the season too. t^


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Capt. Carl on March 05, 2013, 05:45:36 PM
if all options are the same bag limit, im taking option # 3
once again, late sept/early oct weather sucked anyway last year and i have no reason to expect differently this year.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Reel McCoy on March 05, 2013, 05:59:50 PM
 whs  I am with Capt. Carl on this one.  The last two years storms killed the fall fishing.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Duffman on March 05, 2013, 06:50:54 PM
I'm confused?  Where is the option to get back the 3 fish?   I want it back up to 8...where is that option.. ???.... fcp


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: fluke - u on March 05, 2013, 07:11:57 PM
 t^....I went with option #4 .... chrz


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: IrishAyes on March 05, 2013, 07:49:50 PM
I'm confused?  Where is the option to get back the 3 fish?   I want it back up to 8...where is that option.. ???.... fcp

Along with all the other reasonable options, in our dreams.  :P


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Uncle Luna on March 05, 2013, 08:07:28 PM
if all options are the same bag limit, im taking option # 3
once again, late sept/early oct weather sucked anyway last year and i have no reason to expect differently this year.

I agree with you Carl also picked 3.
It helps with the people who fish with you or on a party boat, sometimes very tough to put a limit together on a head boat


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Pops Soul on March 05, 2013, 09:55:37 PM
I hate to say it but it's always affected my life ;D but that half inch made a difference in my keeper to throw back ratio last year I went with number 3 even though I really love the late season fluke fisherie


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Bucktail on March 05, 2013, 10:19:26 PM
I'm confused?  Where is the option to get back the 3 fish?   I want it back up to 8...where is that option.. ???.... fcp

Are there that many people consistently putting together catches of even five keepers per trip now?
Broken One, you can put your hand down now. ;D

Would increasing the bag limit to eight make that much of a difference to most anglers?

I went with #4.  A longer season is always preferable for me.  Especially since I don't get out to fish nearly as much as I used to.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Duffman on March 06, 2013, 09:59:42 AM
I'm confused?  Where is the option to get back the 3 fish?   I want it back up to 8...where is that option.. ???.... fcp

Are there that many people consistently putting together catches of even five keepers per trip now?


Would increasing the bag limit to eight make that much of a difference to most anglers?

I went with #4.  A longer season is always preferable for me.  Especially since I don't get out to fish nearly as much as I used to.

Many people putting limits+ on the deck....although not me.. ;D

Whole point was we will never get back the 3. Voting on 5 now will eventually lead to voting on a 3 fish limit and so and so on.  Sooner or later we will be looking at a fluke limit just like weakfish..1.

Gov keeps taking and taking and taking...for its worth, I vote for the longest season.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: wb on March 06, 2013, 10:23:29 AM
If my entire crew put 8 keepers total on the boat in 1 day that would be stellar.

We must suck.

Not for lack of trying. We sure throw back quite a few.  rofla  chrz

I vote for longest season too. The fun factor is about max, and the shot in the arm to the economy is first-rate.

Bring on the bass!!


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: striperdad on March 06, 2013, 10:42:28 AM
#4 also but in reality they will say that the longer season will cause us to over fish,  rgmn.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: PeggyLee on March 06, 2013, 01:42:12 PM
# 3 for me. It put every thing right in the middle. Some keepers and some late season.

The "half inch" to "inch" is the difference between woo and aahh !!!!! >:D >:D rofla


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on March 06, 2013, 03:02:20 PM
I also picked #3


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Still Running on March 06, 2013, 03:17:33 PM
 whs


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Andys Delight on March 06, 2013, 09:20:00 PM
# 3 for me. It put every thing right in the middle. Some keepers and some late season.

The "half inch" to "inch" is the difference between woo and aahh !!!!! >:D >:D rofla

That's what my wife says.  I'm still not sure which option I like yet, though I do agree with Duffman, where's the 8 fish option?  Slowly but surely, our fish are being taken away.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on March 06, 2013, 10:04:54 PM
Im happy with 5 fish.. That is a lot of meat for one person, especially if these are nice size fish... There are ways to beat the system.. Bring more people fishing with you.  Hey, as long as my wife is sun bathing with a fishing pole in her hand, I get 5 more fish... Oh.. Ill bring my mother also for 5 more.. LOL..

Trust me.. I am happy to catch my limit... Its not often it happens due to small fish..


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: italianfisherman on March 07, 2013, 08:50:13 AM
#4


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Twins n Fins on March 07, 2013, 05:35:41 PM
I like 4 for the late season also but i feel for the partyboat capts. i'm sure they would like the 17.5" to keep customers coming, just an opinion.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Still Running on March 07, 2013, 06:07:45 PM
I heard opt 2 is it


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: italianfisherman on March 07, 2013, 06:24:54 PM
I like 4 for the late season also but i feel for the partyboat capts. i'm sure they would like the 17.5" to keep customers coming, just an opinion.
I dont think 1/2" will stop customers from going on party boats. 18" fluke is a desend fish.(jmop)


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: The Broken One on March 07, 2013, 06:38:59 PM
YEP....HEARD OPTION 2 WAS VOTED IN TODAY.....

HORRIBLE..... Early start given to the south again....   rgmn

we are slowly working our way to a mid season closure giving away days and eventually shrinkage of the bag limit  nosmly


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Hunter 2 on March 07, 2013, 07:49:08 PM
 fcp,  not good for us by the Raritan bay. thd


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: fellinger on March 07, 2013, 08:05:58 PM
What's a fluke?


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: The dropoff on March 07, 2013, 08:09:32 PM
Option 2 was picked tonight.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: IrishAyes on March 07, 2013, 09:09:55 PM
YEP....HEARD OPTION 2 WAS VOTED IN TODAY.....

HORRIBLE..... Early start given to the south again....   rgmn

we are slowly working our way to a mid season closure giving away days and eventually shrinkage of the bag limit  nosmly

With the location of the meeting it is no wonder the southern guys have an advantage on what it chosen. There are probably double the amount of southern guys at the meeting as there are northern guys. More people have to show up for these events in order to have their say.


It will be interesting to see what is in season when the fluke season shuts down in mid September.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: The dropoff on March 07, 2013, 09:25:56 PM
Had nothing to do with north or south.  It was the right option to keep the 17.5 fish.  There is a small chance that we could get some unused quote from another state and add days at the next meeting. 

I guess you were not at the meeting.

Last year the meeting was in toms river but they were unable to get the room this year. 



Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: The Broken One on March 07, 2013, 09:40:28 PM
enjoy the right choice as you say.....cause when its 3 fish at 19 inches with a july closed season we know who will be screaming the opposite song... i'm guessing guys can run blue claw crab charters in the down time....

we CANNOT keep giving days away and expect to ever get anything back in the future...

But bank it now while you can.... chrz


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: IrishAyes on March 07, 2013, 10:33:04 PM


I guess you were not at the meeting.

Last year the meeting was in toms river but they were unable to get the room this year. 



Nope, couldn't make the meeting this time Fran. Hope to be there for the next one. And I have seen the way the meeting work.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Reckless on March 08, 2013, 03:57:13 AM
Do they also change the commercial guys regs?


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Hunter 2 on March 08, 2013, 05:40:25 AM
Looks like the Porgies will be the target for a couple of weeks when Fluke season closes.  :P


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: The dropoff on March 08, 2013, 06:51:00 AM


Nope, couldn't make the meeting this time Fran. Hope to be there for the next one. And I have seen the way the meeting work.
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I know you were not there.  This meeting went a little bit different.  Dick Herb had any of the Advisors that helped to make the option speak first on how they can up with them.  They explained that there was a possibility that is being looking into about states that do not use their quotas going back in the then being redistributed to other states.  We will find out more about that in the May meeting.  Many of the guys that fish from BL (North)  changed there minds to one of the 17.5 inch options. 

Will the MFC does not know if they want to used anything of it. It was requested that they take a hard look at it using it.   Mr. Herb did say that if they were to use it they would only be able to tack on to the back end of the season. 

The overall quota for 2014 will be reduced from the 2013 quota.  That is already in the works. 

Sea Bass is the big question that I want to know about.  Right now we have some gaps in our season right now.  Last year we over came that and I am hoping we can do that again.  Not knowing the Sea Bass season also was talked about. 

I would like a slip season in that.  I am hoping we will see a closer during fluke season and during the spawning time. 


I personal spoke about keeping a 17.5 fish and chose option 2 or 3 since they had the same amount of days to fish.  This poll and all the other polls showed that keeping 17.5 inch fish was important.   


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: The dropoff on March 08, 2013, 06:56:41 AM
Do they also change the commercial guys regs?


The commercial overall quota was reduced.  I do not think there regs are set by the state.  I believe they are done by the feds. 


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: The dropoff on March 08, 2013, 06:58:41 AM
Looks like the Porgies will be the target for a couple of weeks when Fluke season closes.  :P


LOL   I hope not.  I would like to a second half of a sea bass season open up then. 


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: The dropoff on March 08, 2013, 07:35:14 AM
Here is a link I hope it works  Channel 40 out of AC was there.

http://www.nbc40.net/story/21551026/new-flounder-fishing-regulations-adopted-for-2013#.UTnXoUeybiM.facebook


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: IrishAyes on March 08, 2013, 07:51:09 AM
Fran, thanks for your time and the effort you put into this.  slt I know you do a lot of work on this for little recognition and no compensation.

Another thing I want to mention, and Fran (or anyone else), correct me if I'm wrong on this. I don't think the council that just voted on these regulations is the culprit here. This council is given a quota by the feds and this council must come up with seasons, size limits and bag limits that would fall into the quota given them. It is a hard job for this council to then decide on which is the best choice for the majority of the fishermen. For what they are required to do I also give them a big  slt.


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: CodJay on March 08, 2013, 05:22:11 PM
Every year we just keep losing days. Now we lost 20 days. Next year we will lose another 10 days and so on until we have nothing.  cfzd


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Capt. Carl on March 08, 2013, 08:40:39 PM
I consider us very very lucky then.....i can pull up some posts from last year where everyone said this year we would be 2 fish @ 19 to 21 inches  ;D


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: The Broken One on March 08, 2013, 08:51:06 PM
Every year we just keep losing days. Now we lost 20 days. Next year we will lose another 10 days and so on until we have nothing.  cfzd

YEP....but not many get it..... its all about today  rgmn


Title: Re: Fluke Options 2013 poll
Post by: Kahoots on March 10, 2013, 06:37:32 PM
 whs         
         #3
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