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« on: September 30, 2009, 02:26:27 PM »

NOAA just announced 180 day closure of recreational black sea bass fishery in federal waters, effective Monday, 10/5.

NOAA announced today the temporary closure of the black sea bass recreational fishery in federal waters north of Cape Hatteras, N.C., for 180 days in response to recent landings data that showed recreational fishermen may catch more than double their annual quota by the end of the year. The closure will commence Monday, October 5, 2009.

Landings data and scientific analyses show recreational fishermen have reached their quota and could exceed their 1.14 million pound harvest limit by as much as 84 to 225 percent if the recreational fishery is not closed.

An independent body of federal and university scientists recently determined that the black sea bass stock has been rebuilt. However, both the scientists and the Science and Statistical Committee of the Mid-Atlantic Fishery Management Council have cautioned against increasing fishing of this stock for several reasons, including the complex and poorly understood reproductive cycle, and limited information on life span and important habitats for this species. The Council recommends catch limits for black sea bass in federal waters.

NOAA understands and predicts changes in the Earth’s environment, from the depths of the ocean to the surface of the sun, and conserves and manages our coastal and marine
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 02:30:31 PM »

 

NOAA Press Release

Unreal....love this quote in the article:

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NOAA understands and predicts changes in the Earth’s environment, from the depths of the ocean to the surface of the sun, and conserves and manages our coastal and marine resources.

I don't even have a comment for that statement...I am laughing too hard Cry Lips Sealed
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 02:46:21 PM »

NOAA, the same freakin idiots who give us our wonderful weather forcasts.  Angry

These people have got to go. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 02:46:37 PM »

That fn s@cks!!! What about the commercial guys?
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 03:13:20 PM »

and from my understanding, any charter vessel holding a federal vessel permit must abide by federal laws any where they fish....inside 3 miles included....which is all charter and head boats....i need to confirm this crap
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2009, 03:22:03 PM »

That is the way I understand it too Capt Carl.  Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2009, 03:23:53 PM »

just spoke to brian hooker of N.O.A.A. SUSTAINABLE FISHERIES....yup, that was correct...any charter vessel cannot fish for sea bass even inside 3 miles if they hold a federal fisheries permit...ie..northeast multispecies permit....he said for further info contact the regional branch in gloucester mass, 978.281.9300
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2009, 03:31:17 PM »



NOAA Press Release

Unreal....love this quote in the article:

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NOAA understands and predicts changes in the Earth’s environment, from the depths of the ocean to the surface of the sun, and conserves and manages our coastal and marine resources.

I don't even have a comment for that statement...I am laughing too hard Cry Lips Sealed

NOAA's quote sounds pretty bizarre and delusional to me. Quite a stretch to consider the surface of the sun as part of the earth's environment. How can they claim to understand all these things and continue to fail miserably at predicting weather and fish stocks?
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2009, 03:34:16 PM »

How 'bout them bluefish Roll Eyes

 

 
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2009, 09:11:59 PM »

Wait, I'm confused. Its closed in Federal water so I can still catch em up inside 3? Or no?
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 09:29:55 PM »

Yes you can.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 09:30:13 PM »

yes, you can as long as your boat is not a  noaa federal permitted vessel....all charter and head boats are (or should be)so we have to abide by federal laws no matter if we are in or outside of the 3 mile mark. This also means we cannot fish on our own charter boats recreationally (meaning not on a charter but fishing for ourselves)because it is the vessel which holds the permit...not the owner of the vessel(we are just the "vessel operator"). if you are just a recreational fisherman fishing on a vessel which holds no permit, you can fish inside the 3 mile limit and keep the fish.....hope this clears it up for you.
Bottom line....charter and head boats cannot possess sea bass period.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 10:03:16 PM »

Glad I did not renew my permit...
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2009, 10:13:33 PM »

Glad I did not renew my permit...

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2009, 11:16:22 PM »

Capt. Jerry and Capt. Wayne feel free to come on down and fish the 3 mile line...  Evil
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2009, 07:17:32 PM »

Jerry and Wayne you guys are welcome to come out with me, I won't even charge ya! Wink

Thanks for the clarification. That really really really sucks for alot of people on here and I feel for them. I hope despite this, they are still able to run a successful business.
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2009, 08:21:47 PM »

Crappy 09 Fluke regs and now they pull this crap on sea bass with their " best available science"...
Not to mention the cost of fuel and now they want to charge us for a salt water fishing licence next year?

Less fish but more regulations, fees and licences

Can't make this sh*t up 
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2009, 09:29:08 PM »

Just wait....my guess is that Makos are next!
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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2009, 04:02:24 PM »

yes, you can as long as your boat is not a  noaa federal permitted vessel....all charter and head boats are (or should be)so we have to abide by federal laws no matter if we are in or outside of the 3 mile mark. This also means we cannot fish on our own charter boats recreationally (meaning not on a charter but fishing for ourselves)because it is the vessel which holds the permit...not the owner of the vessel(we are just the "vessel operator"). if you are just a recreational fisherman fishing on a vessel which holds no permit, you can fish inside the 3 mile limit and keep the fish.....hope this clears it up for you.
Bottom line....charter and head boats cannot possess sea bass period.

Still trying to figure it all out myself but...

That is not entirely true from what i understand...a lot of charter capts i talked to do not have a federal permit...

If you are a back bay boat why do you need a fedral permit? If you are gonna fish within 3 miles...  Since ya cant for seabass and stripers past 3 miles and dont have to for blackfish no charters boats will have to go more than 3 offshore right?

Why have it?

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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2009, 04:17:43 PM »

I recently received this email. Does not say if federal permit is mandatory for charter boats. 

The NJ DEP Division of Fish and Wildlife is advising recreational anglers that the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) will be closing the recreational black sea bass fishery in federal waters (3 - 200 miles offshore) effective Monday, October 5, 2009, for the next 180 days.

New Jersey State waters (0 - 3 miles offshore) are still open for the recreational harvest of black sea bass with a possession limit of 25 fish and a minimum size limit of 12.5 inches. Also, even though State waters remain open for the black sea bass, party and charter boat operators with a Federal black sea bass permit are prohibited from harvesting black sea bass from both State and Federal waters as of the effective closure date.

Please see the NMFS press release at www.nefsc.noaa.gov/press_release/2009/News/NR0913/index.html on the NMFS website for more information regarding this closure.
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