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Title: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Reckless on April 08, 2008, 08:54:54 AM
  Anyone deal with them for boat insurance?
Thanks
Title: Re: United Marine
Post by: brickken on April 08, 2008, 02:03:50 PM
  Anyone deal with them for boat insurance?
Thanks
Frank:

They are a solid company; also try Global Marine Insurance. https://www.quotemyboat.com/quote/
This is where I get my insurance from. They represent a number of quality insurance companies such as:
ACE Recreational Marine Insurance
"A" rated by A.M. Best Comany
American Modern Insurance Group
"A+" rated by A.M. Best Comany
Markel American Insurance
"A-" rated by A.M. Best Company
Progressive Insurance
"A+" rated by A.M. Best Company
Zurich North America
"A" rated by A.M. Best Company

as well as a few others...

The most important thing you need to know are the exclusions on a policy. Many are common but others aren't. For example if you fish the canyons (as I do) you wouldn't want a policy with a 25 mile limitation from the coast. This is the very first thing I'll ask when reviewing a policy.

Some companies will allow you to schedule your fishing equipment which to me is equally important. Your typical homeowners policy won't cover it while on the boat and many boat insurance policies won't either. As we all know; this stuff takes years and lots of money (no matter what we tell the wives  ;D )to build an arsenal of equipment.

Some policies will have specific named storm coverage (allow you up to $X to pull your boat and lay up and relaunch); some have named storms exclusions. The other thing you want to get where possible is an insure for and valued at; this way if you put a 20K limit on the hull and engines- you get 20K and not 14 after depreciation.

Some policies offer a Zebra Mussel endorsement that states they will cover engine damage due to overheating when caused by internal blockage of water passage by Zebra mussels.

Some will include tools and marine electronics in the hull value and some won't. Same with furniture, galley equipment and permanently installed entertainment electronics.

Some of these things probably aren't important to you, though some are. These are just a few things to consider when looking for coverage. Always start with the exclusions as they can be revealing..  t^
Title: Re: United Marine
Post by: mboy on April 08, 2008, 02:13:47 PM
Ken, what do you think/know about Inamar?

That is who I have now, their exclusion list is minimal, have equipment coverage, stated value-no depreciateion, etc.
Title: Re: United Marine
Post by: Reckless on April 08, 2008, 02:40:10 PM
  Anyone deal with them for boat insurance?
Thanks
Frank:

They are a solid company; also try Global Marine Insurance. https://www.quotemyboat.com/quote/
This is where I get my insurance from. They represent a number of quality insurance companies such as:
ACE Recreational Marine Insurance
"A" rated by A.M. Best Comany
American Modern Insurance Group
"A+" rated by A.M. Best Comany
Markel American Insurance
"A-" rated by A.M. Best Company
Progressive Insurance
"A+" rated by A.M. Best Company
Zurich North America
"A" rated by A.M. Best Company

as well as a few others...

The most important thing you need to know are the exclusions on a policy. Many are common but others aren't. For example if you fish the canyons (as I do) you wouldn't want a policy with a 25 mile limitation from the coast. This is the very first thing I'll ask when reviewing a policy.

Some companies will allow you to schedule your fishing equipment which to me is equally important. Your typical homeowners policy won't cover it while on the boat and many boat insurance policies won't either. As we all know; this stuff takes years and lots of money (no matter what we tell the wives  ;D )to build an arsenal of equipment.

Some policies will have specific named storm coverage (allow you up to $X to pull your boat and lay up and relaunch); some have named storms exclusions. The other thing you want to get where possible is an insure for and valued at; this way if you put a 20K limit on the hull and engines- you get 20K and not 14 after depreciation.

Some policies offer a Zebra Mussel endorsement that states they will cover engine damage due to overheating when caused by internal blockage of water passage by Zebra mussels.

Some will include tools and marine electronics in the hull value and some won't. Same with furniture, galley equipment and permanently installed entertainment electronics.

Some of these things probably aren't important to you, though some are. These are just a few things to consider when looking for coverage. Always start with the exclusions as they can be revealing..  t^


Thanks for the info!!  chrz
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Hotrod on April 08, 2008, 02:58:11 PM
Great Info t^
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on April 08, 2008, 03:09:59 PM
 whs
Title: Re: United Marine
Post by: brickken on April 08, 2008, 03:18:26 PM
Ken, what do you think/know about Inamar?

That is who I have now, their exclusion list is minimal, have equipment coverage, stated value-no depreciateion, etc.
INAMAR Marine is now ACE Marine Insurance...very good company. They have about 6 different forms which provides different levels of coverage. Take five minutes and look at their endorsements, that's typically where you'll find coverage grants (good thing) and exclusions -(some not so good).
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: mboy on April 08, 2008, 03:19:23 PM
Cool, thanks Ken.
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: IrishAyes on April 08, 2008, 04:30:45 PM
Excellent info. Thanks.  t^
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: captmoose on July 07, 2008, 11:37:26 AM
It's nice to see some decent things about Ace Recreational insurance.  I work for Ace in the commercial marine loss control dept.  Can't offer any inside tips though, I'm a captain and only do loss control, nothing with underwriting.
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Tacklebox Joe on January 28, 2010, 03:30:43 PM
good info...looking for boat insurance...but not for 12 months. who can i go to?
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Still Running on January 28, 2010, 07:06:35 PM
Try Boat US
Not bad prices.
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Hotrod on January 28, 2010, 07:12:35 PM
I have boatus  50k Coverage and 10 K On Equipment this includes theft. cost me 700 a Year.

I took the no depreciating. meaning if I hit something and blow up my motor. I get a new one. other plans depreciate it 10% a year I think..
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Still Running on January 28, 2010, 07:18:29 PM
Price of the insurance depends on the boat and if you keep it on a trailer or in the water.
My 2007 boat is less then my older boat just because I keep it on a trailer. The other thing I like about Boat US is that it covers towing for the boat if it breaks down while I am on it. Just like AAA.
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: IrishAyes on January 28, 2010, 07:26:36 PM
Rick, not sure if you are aware of it but, the towing plan with the insurance is for only about $50 worth of towing. If you need a typical tow it will cost probably $200 minimum. You need to get the unlimited towing for $140 per year to make it worth having.
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Hotrod on January 28, 2010, 07:33:48 PM
Yea.  the towing for me is another 119  or so..
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: BeN F on January 28, 2010, 07:37:01 PM
i have allstate i think i need to call them and get into detail after this thread
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Still Running on January 28, 2010, 07:38:17 PM
 t^ Thanks Joe I have the unlimited. I only have to pay that once even though I use two boats.
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: IrishAyes on January 28, 2010, 07:42:05 PM
Rick, there are a lot of people who don't know that about the towing on their insurance policy. They think it will cover the whole bill.

When I got towed in because of an electrical problem last year I think the statement I got was somewhere near $600. Just show the card and your good to go.  TT^
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Hotrod on January 28, 2010, 07:42:54 PM
Price of the insurance depends on the boat and if you keep it on a trailer or in the water.
My 2007 boat is less then my older boat just because I keep it on a trailer.

I had that option also Rick,  But I didn't want to go with what the boat was worth as I was told they hit you with 10% a year in depreciation. I went with the no depreciation and what I thought it would cost me to by the same boat again. Of course this cost me more.
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: IrishAyes on January 28, 2010, 07:50:32 PM
Haha Jawz, funny you said that. I had State Farm the first year I bought my boat, back in 1994. Got to talking to people and it seems like they didn't really cover a whole lot. Checked with State Farm and the guys were right. I went to BoatUS and haven't been sorry yet.

Had to file a claim a couple years ago when I hit a submerged piece of lumber and wiped out the lower unit on my Yammie. BoatUS only wanted a pic of the damage. I got a check within one week.  t^
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Still Running on January 28, 2010, 07:51:04 PM
You can get it both ways. I think it was a depreciation or for paid value. You get what you paid for it. That’s the way I went, plus the towing.

I had the guy who does my home owners insurance do my boat. He told me I was fully covered anywhere in the world I went with the boat. Thank god I found out that I was not covered on tidal waters before I needed it.
 
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Hotrod on January 28, 2010, 07:54:37 PM
I actually just got off the phone with them.

I have an agreed Value Policy, for total lose.
If more than 70% of boat is damaged they would call it a total lose.  and I would be paid $50,000

My Motor is depreciation in years and are as follows
3-6 none
7 - 15%
8-  35%
9- 40%
10-14 45%
15- 85%
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Still Running on January 28, 2010, 07:57:50 PM
You know what the means Rod?

You have to but a new motor every six years.
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: IrishAyes on January 28, 2010, 08:00:36 PM
Guys, check you policy for fuel/oil spills. Some do not cover that and if you had a spill it will cost a small fortune for the clean up.

Jawz, no one ever questioned your knowledge.  t^
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: Hotrod on January 28, 2010, 08:01:29 PM


Jawz, no one ever questioned your knowledge.  t^
whs t^
Title: Re: Boat Insurance | United Marine
Post by: adienviro on January 30, 2011, 02:30:40 PM
Great Info t^
whs

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