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NJ Saltwater Fishing Reports and Information => Helping Each Other Out => Topic started by: Reel Time on June 20, 2007, 10:05:24 PM
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i have searched, but cannot find any regulations on mahi. what are they if any? are they even regulated by nmfs?
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Change the name of this topic to
Mahi Regulations
and in a couple days there will be a place to read about it ;)
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i dont think there are any size limits. Creel, I am unsure.???
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Hi Guys,
None ... I am researching some info on this topic for a number of reasons.
No size or bag limit ... use your best judgement!
Stay tuned!
Capt. Ed
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I heard if you have several anglers on deck and somebody catches one that the angler should leave the fish in the water for a pretty good shot at others hooking up if they pitch a lure in the area of the fish? anybody know if this is true and if so has anybody seen that first hand?
that would be incredible! would be like being on a school of blues only it's MAHI!! :o
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I heard if you have several anglers on deck and somebody catches one that the angler should leave the fish in the water for a pretty good shot at others hooking up if they pitch a lure in the area of the fish? anybody know if this is true and if so has anybody seen that first hand?
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Absolutely true.
Always leave at least 1 hooked mahi/dorado/dolphin in the water and you'll be able to catch a few more from the school.
Usually all the mahi in the school will be of the same size.
Most inshore NJ mahi are in the #3-5 class. Which is only a 1 year old fish.
BTW, one of the best mahi baits is live killies. Throw a handful around a lobster pot, offshore buoy or any type of floating debris (weedline, pallet etc) and keep a sharp eye out for any neon green, blue or yellow flashes.
Mahi are great fun on light spinning tackle.
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I heard if you have several anglers on deck and somebody catches one that the angler should leave the fish in the water for a pretty good shot at others hooking up if they pitch a lure in the area of the fish? anybody know if this is true and if so has anybody seen that first hand?
that would be incredible! would be like being on a school of blues only it's MAHI!! :o
Well, like most schooling fish, others Mahi will notice when a fish is feeding by its actions under the water. If you leave the fish in the water, others will gather.... just like bluefish... The difference is that there are an abundance of bluefish and it doesn't matter if you pull the fish out of the water because there are a ton behind it. Mahi will run in much smaller schools then bluefish, so the trick is to keep them there.
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thanks guys! can't wait to hunt down some mahi t^
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I found the creel is 10 fish per man with no size limit
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I want to go get some !! use to catch them on my uncles boat in Fl great fights and eats ;D just dont think my 21 with 63 gals of fuel make it to them from morgan :'( :'(
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Hi All,
Salty - that is the rub.
I see them very close to shore, most people do not look.
If you see pots or floating debris, weedlines and the water is warm and relatively bluish, go over and take a look. I always have a spinning rod with a white bucktail to throw at that stuff. They are ecosystems in themselves.
So, if you see someone approaching pots and debris slowly and throwing out some killies near it or using a bucktail, it may be me.
Everyone should start using the commercial markers as an asset rather than a hindrance. BTW, they can find strcuture like no other and they even mark it for you to record on your chartplotter. Take a few minutes and run search patterns near their flags and see why they are there - there just may be a wreck, rockpile or other structure that you did not know about.
Good luck,
Capt. Ed
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Escellent point Capt Ed. the comms know or find all kinds of structure. Don't forget, them make a living doing this. They wouldn't put their gear in a place where they don't expect a decent catch. Their gear is not always in the same place. If you get the numbers to where their gear is, on your next trip out you may find the gear is no longer on that spot and it can be fished without interference from their gear.
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Dont think my boat with 63 gals will go out that far from morgan to get them ??? Someone gonna have to bring me some steaks than. Think they out there by Ambrose?
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i dont know where morgan is, but i went out saturday to the mudhole, which is 15 miles (+/-) out of manasquan inlet and there where a ton of pots, if not hundreds of them. just punch in the oil wreck and check distance with your gps. i stopped 1mile short of it, and thats where all the pots where. so many i dont know how the hell your supposed to troll by them closely. you'd be zigzagging like no tomorrow.
also it was to rough to fish that day out there for me, so i cant give a report of that area for saturday
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how much gas you hold? I have same boat but a johnson 130 hold 63 gals of gas i have to go from perth amboy area to hook than around it. I know where its at use to fish for shark there and beyond with pops.
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Would it be possible to catch any mahi in the farms or 17 fathoms area as that is about as far as my comfort level will let me venture. Also is it possible to catch them without trolling? thank you
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Adam,
I have caught them within one mile from Shark River inlet. Granted, it isn't an everyday event but just indicates that you don't have to be in the mudhole or further out to get them.
OH yeah, we were fishing for fluke at the time and it hit the bait on the way up.
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salty pig, i hold 105gals of fuel. i ran from the rt37 bridge up the icw to the manasquan inlet (about 11miles), out to 1 mile short of the oil wreck (14 miles), back to the inlet (14 miles), over to the axle carlson reef(4 miles), bunch of drifts there, and back to my slip at the 37 bridge and burned 1/4 tank.
that was with a pretty heavy load of 2 people, gear, 70lbs of ice, and about 70lbs of bait. basically was not able to plane the boat after 3 miles off the beach cause of roughness. granted i do have a 4stroke too.
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WOW think mine is only 63 gals its 1997 21 ft with 130 hp 2 stroke does that mean it burns up more gas? id love to go out farther just not sure if i should chance it gonna have to use the 1/3 rule i guess and attempt it.
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that would be the safest/best bet, the 1/3 rule rules.
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with 63 gals,, my 1/4 tank is pretty darn close to 1/2 tank for you. wow what a difference.
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Never know how accurate the gauge is just had new one installed. I WANT SOME MAHI MAHI :'( :'(
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lol, me too brotha, me too
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I just installed a Flo-Scan fuel flow meter on my boat this past winter,I got tired of guessing how much I was burning.The thing is dead on accurate to 1 gal or less.Now I can run & know exactly how much I've burned.It also gives a real time GPH burn reading that you can see where your engine(or engines)will run @ the optimum RPM.Push that throttle down & watch that needle get buried :P.They aren't too cheap up to $600 for a twin engine model but the piece of mind it gives you is worth it, they come with a very detailed set of installation instructions.
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i was thinking about that system, but my motor has 2 pumps, and the actual gph will not be aucurate. still trying to figure out if the yamaha system will do what i want.
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I have had the Yamaha Fuel Management System on my boat since new (1994). It is still acurate to within a gallon or two. I carry 216 gallons but rarely let it get down too far. Anyway, I don't see what difference two pumps would make. If you are talking about fuel pumps on the motor, on my old 2-stroke, there were six. The sender goes into the fuel line. All the fuel would flow thru the sender before it gets to anything that may affect it.
In my opinion, the fuel management system (flow scan) is a very valuable tool. As Fishraiser said, you can tell your optimum cruising speed for maximum fuel economy.
Joe
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what i mean by 2fuel pumps is i have a low pressrue pump that feeds the vst (vapor seperation tank ( i think its called)). then from the vst there is a high pressure pump that feeds the fuel rail for the injection.
the low pressure pump cycles on and off constantly to feed the vst which will throw off the actual burn rate (gph). the total fuel consumed will be accurate, but not burn rate which is a little more important for managing fuel use. so over all, i'm not sure if the couple/few hundred dollar price tag is worth it just to tell me what i've used. and if i do decide to go for just that, i'm sure there are alternatives that are cheaper, since thats all it will be good for is total fuel used.
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Thanks for the explaination Reel Time. I am by no means an outboard mechanic. Only know about what I have dealt with on my boats.
Your explaination seems logical to me about the burn rate. I also found this so I could understand it better.
Why does my fuel computer give LOW or erratic readings?
Another cause of erratic readings is the way the newer EFI engines operate which is by delivering fuel to the engine from a fuel reservoir. This reservoir (or bowl) is refilled from the main fuel tank only when the bowl level is getting low. This produces a high flow rate through the fuel transducer when the bowl is filling and little or no flow rate when the bowl is not filling. Although the fuel flow transducer can accurately follow these changes, it can be difficult to display the fuel flow rate due to the rapid variation. To overcome this the fuel computers all have a flow filter setting in the menu, which acts as an averaging or smoothing factor on the readings. Usually a carburetted engine will require a setting of 10-15 seconds whilst an EFI engine will require a longer setting. Remember that the flow filter setting does not affect the accuracy of the fuel used or the fuel remaining, but does affect the display of fuel flow. Always use the lowest filter setting that gives a smooth flow reading.
Something I was unaware of. Thanks again. t^