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Title: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: sealife on January 29, 2010, 10:32:41 AM

At night you see a vessel approaching that shows a light pattern such as this.

What action do you take?


(http://www.boatus.org/onlinecourse/reviewpages/boatusf/project/info2c_files/image004.jpg)






You are in a crossing situation, and you must yield ( “Give way” vessel) to the other vessel (Stand on vessel) - that's why it is red.

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: wb on January 29, 2010, 11:13:26 AM

red white white

boat ahead crossing from right

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: IrishAyes on January 29, 2010, 11:34:31 AM

 t^

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Hunter 2 on January 29, 2010, 11:44:24 AM

Yup, Boats heading is from your right to left. Slow down and pass to the right.  Dont forget to wave hello slt

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: IrishAyes on January 29, 2010, 12:11:31 PM

If you are the burden vessel make sure you take POSITIVE and TIMELY action.

In other words, make an exaggerated turn in plenty of time for the stand on vessel to know positively what you are doing. Don't make short, quick heading adjustments and don't wait till the last minute to make your adjustment.

There is nothing worse than guessing if the burden vessel is going to give you the right of way.

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Still Running on January 29, 2010, 01:19:18 PM

What I was taught is if you see red, they see green. Red means stop and green means go, so they have the right of way.

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Capt. Mike on January 29, 2010, 01:23:06 PM

When in doubt go slow and give way. Trying to hail on 16 or 8 for commercials could also help the communication along.

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: WATSNEXT on January 29, 2010, 03:37:09 PM

Thats very nice but in reality it's

If I have the bigger and faster boat, I do what ever I want, any time I want. Cause you inconvenience me when ever I have to slow down.

Except for sail boats cause they always have the right of way as do larger craft

But the rest of the time it's TOOT  TOOT I'm comming thru   watch out  get out of the way, then as I blast by you I wave to you, to say hello and assure you that everything is fine

\_________ cfzd__________]

Then I can't understand why I'm getting the finger and being cursed at

Can't tell you how many times I was cut off while trolling ( Freakin IDIOTS )

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Hotrod on January 29, 2010, 03:41:33 PM

 clp clp t^

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Jeffish on January 29, 2010, 04:49:32 PM

Quote from: WATSNEXT on January 29, 2010, 03:37:09 PM

Thats very nice but in reality it's

If I have the bigger and faster boat, I do what ever I want, any time I want. Cause you inconvenience me when ever I have to slow down.

Except for sail boats cause they always have the right of way as do larger craft

But the rest of the time it's TOOT  TOOT I'm comming thru   watch out  get out of the way, then as I blast by you I wave to you, to say hello and assure you that everything is fine

\_________ cfzd__________]

Then I can't understand why I'm getting the finger and being cursed at

Can't tell you how many times I was cut off while trolling ( Freakin IDIOTS )

Good to know for when I decide to steal borrow hotrods boat. I'll just make sure to have it full throttle, and maybe modify the exhaust so the boat sounds meaner. Vroom VROOOOM!

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Hotrod on January 29, 2010, 05:14:28 PM

This is all the stuff you will need to learn.

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: WATSNEXT on January 29, 2010, 06:28:34 PM

POP QUIZ
say the situation is reversed
the green is on your right w/ the 2 whites center and left and is not giving way

What do you do ?

1. Increase speed and pass in front of him.

2. Increase speed and correct you course seconds before impact.

3. Increase speed and ram that SOB amid ship

NOTE all answers start with "increase speed "  hhppy

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: IrishAyes on January 29, 2010, 07:03:03 PM

If the green light is on your right the vessel will be heading AWAY from you going further to your right. In other words, he has passed your bow and is no longer presents a risk of collissions. That is, of course, unless he is going in reverse gear. TT^

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Capt. Mike on January 29, 2010, 07:11:16 PM

Haha had to think about that for a minute. This is one of those situations were easier done then read.  :headscra:  ;D

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Still Running on January 29, 2010, 07:13:25 PM

Quote from: WATSNEXT on January 29, 2010, 06:28:34 PM

POP QUIZ
say the situation is reversed
the green is on your right w/ the 2 whites center and left and is not giving way

What do you do ?

1. Increase speed and pass in front of him.

2. Increase speed and correct you course seconds before impact.

3. Increase speed and ram that SOB amid ship

NOTE all answers start with "increase speed "  hhppy

#1 and if you can't get in front of then #3  rofla

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Capt. Carl on January 29, 2010, 09:45:11 PM

the real fun part is when you realize its an idiot that left his running lights on while he is anchored up bluefishing!  _:"

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: WATSNEXT on January 29, 2010, 10:24:37 PM

Joe makes a great observation here
even though the craft is in my direct path and not giving way since the green light is to the right of the other 2 white lights this craft is no longer at risk of collision so by all means increase your speed and pray that he is not there when you get there
Also another great point Joe touched on the craft in question was a dory type with a blown forward gear and he's limping back to port in reverse, this to is possible as is being dragged backwards by a submarine
Sorry Joe just havin a little fun
And finally the location of these lights relative to your heading for example the lights are at 10 O'Clock are they at 2 O'Clock would make a difference

Quote from: IrishAyes on January 29, 2010, 07:03:03 PM

If the green light is on your right the vessel will be heading AWAY from you going further to your right. In other words, he has passed your bow and is no longer presents a risk of collisions. That is, of course, unless he is going in reverse gear. TT^

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: IrishAyes on January 29, 2010, 10:38:45 PM

WATs, don't be sorry. I know it is all in fun. Have at it.  TT^ chrz

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Jeffish on January 30, 2010, 09:25:14 AM

So. This is what I've thought about red and green lights.

Red is on the right(starboard)
Green is on the left(port)

If I see red, I have to yeild/stop, if I see green, I have the right of way.

I may have the above mixed up.  :headscra:

Also, what if I'm at a "3-way/4-way intersection"

One more "complicated" question.

Say I'm coming out of barnegat inlet going east. I want to turn left, and go north, but there is a boat coming from the east, headed straight to the inlet. My calculations predict if we both go at the same time, we'll join the wrecks at the bottom of the jetty. Who has the right of way?

A couple of times when I was out with hotrod, some guy in a 50ft boat with 10 motors goes and does whatever he wants. I'd just like to know by the book what is supposed to be done.

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Still Running on January 30, 2010, 09:43:03 AM

You have it backwards Jeff

Red is on the left (port)

Green is on the right (starboard)

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Jeffish on January 30, 2010, 09:49:08 AM

Well, I thought maybe, just maybe, red = right. Since port = 4 letters, left = 4 letters. Maybe there was a trick to it. Guess not  rgmn

Quote from: jeffibew on January 30, 2010, 09:25:14 AM

Say I'm coming out of barnegat inlet going east. I want to turn left, and go north, but there is a boat coming from the east, headed straight to the inlet. My calculations predict if we both go at the same time, we'll join the wrecks at the bottom of the jetty. Who has the right of way?

I've thought about what I'd do in this situation, and I'd stop, and wait for the other boat to pass, then turn. Is that the right thing to do? I always, always drive defensively, and think about the what if's, so I just let everyone go so I know it's safe.

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: IrishAyes on January 30, 2010, 09:56:54 AM

As Rick said, red is on the port (left) side. Just remember port wine is red and associate red with port.

As far as leaving the inlet and having a boat approaching the inlet. Both boats should maintain their present course and they would both be ok. If you were to turn IN FRONT of the other boat you would be wrong. You do not MAKE a situation where you have the right of way which you would be attempting to do in this scenario. You have started out in a meeting situation, keep it at that and pass port to port. After the pass you can alter your course to the north.

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: ped579 on January 30, 2010, 10:00:19 AM

Jeff just remember left and port have 4 letters and port wine is red... TT^

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: WATSNEXT on January 30, 2010, 10:41:36 AM

This is really GREAT

You know why ?

EVERYONE'S     T H I N K I N G    !

Now if everyone would remember to do that when were underway the marine world would be just fine

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: IrishAyes on January 30, 2010, 10:53:04 AM

Well said Wats.  t^

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Jeffish on January 30, 2010, 11:07:29 AM

So, never turn in front of someone. By saying that I mean never cut someone off, or come close to cutting someone off. Correct?

Port, left, 4 letters, port wine is red. Got it.

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: WATSNEXT on January 30, 2010, 11:49:42 AM

That's if everything is as it should be, I'm saying like the rules of the road when driving your car. When your in a channel or approach it's red on the right when returning OK everyone's with that,
Now what if your not in the channel rules of the road still apply, although few seem to know them or follow them
you can, yes-drive on the left side of the road, but no one does it except in England and on the water.
You have to be cognisant of your situation and surroundings And always try to figure out what the other guy is doing.
The lights only seem to work when your at a 4 way stop sign and no one can decide who's going next
Also you can determin a crafts direction from afar

You  ever go out on the 4th of July n anchor to watch the F.W.
1. none of the small craft have anchor lights
2. 95% of the small craft leave their running lights on while anchored
3. the other 5% who just sit their with no lights at all

Recreational BOATING don't ya just love it!

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Jeffish on January 30, 2010, 12:44:13 PM

What if you are in the channel, but the guy in front of you is going too slow for your liking. How would you go about passing him?

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: brian8980 on January 30, 2010, 01:09:37 PM

Been in that same situation...  I have always passed on the left when no one else is coming... Just like when driving a car.  But this can get very tricky at night.

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: NJ Guy on February 04, 2010, 06:51:57 PM

http://www.fishingpixels.com/boatcrash1.html


i think that guy has the right of way

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Hotrod on February 04, 2010, 07:50:59 PM

OMG!!... 

Title: Re: Interpreting What You See Q1
Post by: Still Running on February 04, 2010, 07:59:51 PM

Looks like the Navesink River on a weekend.