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Title: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: njdiver on November 29, 2010, 12:01:35 PM
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

RIN 0648-XA050


National Saltwater Angler Registry Program

AGENCY: National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS), National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), Commerce.

ACTION: Notice.

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SUMMARY: NMFS has established an annual fee of fifteen dollars ($15.00)
for registration of anglers, spear fishers and for-hire fishing vessels
to register under the National Saltwater Angler Registry Program.

DATES: The registration fee will be required effective January 1, 2011.

ADDRESSES: Gordon C. Colvin, Fishery Biologist, NMFS ST-12453, 1315
East-West Highway, Silver Spring, MD 20910.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Gordon C. Colvin, Fishery Biologist;
(301) 713-2367 x175; e-mail: Gordon.Colvin@noaa.gov.

SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: The final rule implementing the National
Saltwater Angler Registry Program, 50 CFR part 600, subpart P, was published in the Federal Register on December 30, 2008. The final rule states that persons registering with NMFS must pay an annual fee effective January 1, 2011, and that NMFS will publish the annual schedule for such fees in the Federal Register.

NMFS has determined that the annual registration fee for anglers, spear fishers and for-hire fishing vessels will be fifteen dollars ($15.00). All persons registering on or after January 1, 2011 will be required to pay the registration fee, unless they are exempt as indigenous people per the provisions of 50 CFR 600.1410(f).

Dated: November 22, 2010.
Eric C. Schwaab,
Assistant Administrator for Fisheries, National Marine Fisheries Service.
[FR Doc. 2010-29810 Filed 11-24-10; 8:45 am]


http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2010/2010-29810.htm


http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2010/2010-29810.htm
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: Kenny on November 29, 2010, 03:45:20 PM
I always thought that I was a   " indigenous people "    5hrug
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: Tacklebox Joe on November 29, 2010, 04:41:21 PM
thanks for the post t^
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: IrishAyes on November 29, 2010, 07:59:20 PM
  thud rgmn rgmn rgmn
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: ped579 on November 29, 2010, 10:36:38 PM
This is another nice tax you've gotten us into... smk
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: Bucktail on November 29, 2010, 11:05:19 PM
So this is what we will pay to the feds if NJ doesn't establish it's own registry or license?

The link doesn't work.
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: Scott G. on November 30, 2010, 07:14:36 AM
This is another nice tax you've gotten us into... smk
whs
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: IrishAyes on November 30, 2010, 07:51:25 AM
Bob and Scott. That is correct, this is what we will be paying because NJ has no license or registry.

We can get a FREE registry but Senator Smith will not release the legislature for a senate vote. And here all along I thought these senators worked for us!!!  nosmly
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: njdiver on November 30, 2010, 08:24:02 AM
So this is what we will pay to the feds if NJ doesn't establish it's own registry or license?

The link doesn't work.
It is a direct link to the Federal Registry posting.  My post is a direct copy.  Works for me. 
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: njdiver on November 30, 2010, 08:25:33 AM
11. Where will the money go?

Fees collected by the National Saltwater Angler Registry will go to the Federal treasury. They will not be designated for any specific purpose. In the case of anglers who are automatically registered when they buy a state license, money paid to the state will be used for purposes determined by that state. If you have a saltwater fishing license, call your state department of natural resources for more information.

https://www.countmyfish.noaa.gov/faq_registry.html#11

Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: njdiver on November 30, 2010, 08:26:15 AM
Senator Bob Smith
216 Stelton Rd.
Suite E-5
Piscataway, NJ 08854

(732) 752-0770
Fax: (732) 752-1590

SenBSmith@njleg.org

Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: Reckless on November 30, 2010, 08:27:30 AM
Bob and Scott. That is correct, this is what we will be paying because NJ has no license or registry.

We can get a FREE registry but Senator Smith will not release the legislature for a senate vote. And here all along I thought these senators worked for us!!!  nosmly

They work for the highest bidder. Not us.
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: Scott G. on November 30, 2010, 09:36:14 AM
You know whats going to happen in years to come, we will need a stamp ( for different types of fish we catch for an additional charge ) on the saltwater license just like fresh water. This is just the beginning.   fcp    fcp    fcp
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: Hunter 2 on November 30, 2010, 10:28:05 AM
Lets hope the RFA can make more progress with this. t^
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: Bucktail on November 30, 2010, 10:58:15 AM
Thanks for fixing the link Rod. t^
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: wb on December 01, 2010, 12:51:19 PM
what happened to the registry from last year? did it just up and disappear? is it no longer applicable? why can't that be used as a start? who do these politicians work for?

Obviously my first contact fell on deaf ears, so I stepped it up a bit in my next correspondence, directly to Bobby:

Dear Bob,
I am urging you to move for an immediate committee vote on bill S1122. The Assembly version (A823) has already passed. Your refusal to move the bill answers to an appointed bureaucracy instead of the will of the people. Who exactly do you work for? The vast majority of the 245,000 NJ residents currently enrolled in the federal registry agree. Stop pandering to your special interests and do the job you were elected for and trusted to do.
Please respond in detail explaining how you will honor my request.
Thanks in advance for your anticipated cooperation.


Too strong? What can it hurt? I hear Sen. Boobala is getting threats now. Please feel free to copy and paste.
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: CapBob on December 01, 2010, 01:18:11 PM
My Wife, my Son, My Daughter and I all sent emails and made calls to Sen Smith with no reply  (go figure)


I would not have a problem paying a $15 fee if all the money wnet into the NJ Fishery Program. 

 am sure if certain people wanted to they could bring pressure on the Sen to move the bill, but
I guess we are not that important, nor are the millions in revenue and taxes fishing brings to the state
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: SurfJockey on December 01, 2010, 02:50:42 PM
I copied, pasted, and forwarded to Sen. Smith.


I'm with you Capt. Bob!  I'd have no problem paying it, as long as it went RIGHT BACK INTO THE STATES FISHERIES!!!!
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: Tacklebox Joe on December 01, 2010, 07:24:28 PM
I copied, pasted, and forwarded to Sen. Smith.


I'm with you Capt. Bob!  I'd have no problem paying it, as long as it went RIGHT BACK INTO THE STATES FISHERIES!!!!

 whs
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: njdiver on December 02, 2010, 10:35:02 AM
An interesting post I found:

According to the verbiage in 600.1410 Subpart P-Marine Recreational Fisheries of the United States under the Registry process 600.1410 section, number (d), starting on page 79,718 it states: "NMFS will issue a registration number and certificate to registrants. A registration number and certificate will be valid for one year from the date on which it was issued."

50 CFR 600 Marine Recreational Fisheries of the United States

Due to the registration process as defined by the National Marine Fisheries Service New Jersey anglers can register on December 31, 2010 and not pay a fee associated with the Federal Angler Registry for 2011 up to December 30, 2011. I am sure many anglers will take advantage of this loophole in the registration process in the event that New Jersey does not pass legislation for a free or nominal fee registry in 2010.

Jersey Joe


http://bhweb.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=136892#Post136892


PART 600-MAGNUSON-STEVENS ACT PROVISIONS

Subpart P--Marine Recreational Fisheries of the United States

ยง 600.1410 Registry process.

d. NMFS will issue a registration number and certificate to registrants. A registration number and certificate will be valid for one year from the date on which it was issued.


Here is a working link to the Final Rule PDF. Large file 2.59 mb. Section mentioned is on page 60.

https://www.countmyfish.noaa.gov/aboutus/organization/downloads/Saltwater_Angler_Registry_Final_Rule.pdf
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: ped579 on December 02, 2010, 10:39:42 AM
Just for sh!t$ and giggles I re registered as my registration was coming due soon and it came up with no where was the mention of any payment and I am registered till 12/01/11.

Unless they send a bill with the new card we will have to see.  But the print out was for 2011.

Happy Catching

Paul
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: SurfJockey on December 02, 2010, 10:44:45 AM
Same here Paul.  Just registered again, and it gave the same date. 
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: ped579 on December 02, 2010, 10:48:30 AM
 TT^
Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: IrishAyes on December 02, 2010, 10:50:33 AM
This is an email I just sent to guys on my email list who fish saltwater. Feel free to cut and paste and sent to your friends, relatives, etc.


If you plan on doing any salt water fishing in 2011 you will need to register with the feds (same as for 2010) becasue NJ does not have a license or registry for the feds to contact you for their survey. (Yeah, I know, it is stupid but it is what it is)
 
Anyway, when you register you are good for one year from the day you register. Beginning on January 1, 2011, you will be charged $15 for the registration fee. Therefore, if you register prior to January 1, 2011, you will not be charged a fee and can fish 'for free' until your registration expires. So, register in December, 2010 and you are good until Dec, 2011, with no fee involved!
 
This will verify what I have just said:
According to the verbiage in 600.1410 Subpart P-Marine Recreational Fisheries of the United States under the Registry process 600.1410 section, number (d), starting on page 79,718 it states: "NMFS will issue a registration number and certificate to registrants. A registration number and certificate will be valid for one year from the date on which it was issued."

50 CFR 600 Marine Recreational Fisheries of the United States

Due to the registration process as defined by the National Marine Fisheries Service New Jersey anglers can register on December 31, 2010 and not pay a fee associated with the Federal Angler Registry for 2011 up to December 30, 2011. I am sure many anglers will take advantage of this loophole in the registration process in the event that New Jersey does not pass legislation for a free or nominal fee registry in 2010.

Please pass this along to all of your fishing buddies who would like to save $15 next year.



I got the second part, where it verifies what I said, from a post from NJDiver. Again, good find NJDiver and thanks for posting that.  t^
Joe


Title: Re: National Saltwater Angler Registry Program
Post by: Scott G. on December 02, 2010, 10:54:48 AM
 t^ Thanks for the update Joe   t^