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NJ Saltwater Fisherman => Non-Fishing Discussions => Topic started by: Andys Delight on February 25, 2012, 03:41:30 PM
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I trailered the boat home today, not fun at all pulling it to Branchburg up 287 in this wind but she's home safe. Shrinkwrap did not fare so well, but oh well. On to bottom paint and rewiring over the next 3 weeks.
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todays wasn't a good day to be towing with that wind.. Lucky your home safe.
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Hey like i said bud if you need a hand just give me a shout for help with the wiring chrz
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Good luck with the spring prep work t^
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Took a look at the wiring........... :headscra: :headscra: :headscra: :headscra: :headscra:
That's about where I'm at with it.
But I did paint the bottom so far.
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Took a look at the wiring........... :headscra: :headscra: :headscra: :headscra: :headscra:
That's about where I'm at with it.
But I did paint the bottom so far.
Pull one out put one in do them completely one at a time. Unless you have several wires running together than run them at the same time just make sure you tag them so you know which one is which.
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Took a look at the wiring........... :headscra: :headscra: :headscra: :headscra: :headscra:
That's about where I'm at with it.
But I did paint the bottom so far.
Pull one out put one in do them completely one at a time. Unless you have several wires running together than run them at the same time just make sure you tag them so you know which one is which.
I'm gonna put some pics up soon, but my biggest issue is alot of the wires are all cluttered together, they go through a makeshift hole then travel behind the wall to the fusebox, so I can't clearly get a handle on what's going to what.
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OK, here are the pics. The first is the back of the helm after it was unbuttoned, the second is a tough angle but it shows the little makeshift hole that all wires go into the wall, the 3rd is the fusebox.
My original plan was to create a new, larger hole for the wires to freely travel into and put molding on it so the wires don't chafe, change out the fusebox and replace all wiring to the new fusebox. Now I'm kinda :headscra: :headscra: :headscra:
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WOW.
I'm amazed you havent had an electrical problem or fire yet!
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Holy Spaghetti good luck there. its probably alot easier than it looks. yeah a larger hole would help also some sort of gromet to prevent the sharp glass from cutting the wires. and just do them one at a time. Youll probably find some that go no where and some spliced together a couple times. You should make a list of all your electronics so this way you know what size wires to run. and it never hurts to run a spare for those what if moments.
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OK, I managed to trace the nav lights, spotlight, Trim tabs, horn, and Livewell (which I don't even have so I have no idea yet where that switch goes off to) and I think I have the spreadersbut I'm a little confused on it.
For the spreaders I hooked multimeter up to the wire connection on top of the arch and then down to the switch. The switch is a 2 connection on off switch. On one side of the switch is a switched power connection from the radio and a hot lead that I assume goes to the spreaders. On the other is a single hot wire I'm assuming goes to the fuse box. When I connect the multimeter to the terminal on the side with the radio and the other wire I get nothing regardless of the switch position. When I connect it to the single wire on the other terminal I get a positive reading on the multimeter only when the switch is on. If the switch is off I get no reading at all.
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Wiring always looks like a clust f**k to me.
Good luck!!
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Thers only two connectors on the back of the switch? is there a light in the switch?
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Thers only two connectors on the back of the switch? is there a light in the switch?
No light, two connectors. One is definitely the switched hot lead for the radio tapped into what I'm pretty sure is the lead to the spreaders. The other is a single hot line that I assume runs to the fuse panel. The spreaders don't work when the switch is on, however they came on last night when the battery was off, switch to the spreaders was on, and they turned on and off with the front spotlight. Strange. They're going to get rewired with a dedicated switch and I'm going to drop the switched radio, don't need that as I only listen to it when battery switch power is on anyway.
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Sounds like a plan. I like to have everything wired home run it saves headaches but does require more wire, but if its worth doing its worth doing right.
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t^ GOOD LUCK t^
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holy electrical spaghetti batman!! cfzd
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Well today it begins. NJ Guy stopped by yesterday and gave me some advice and help. I've traced most wires and pulled out the old fuse bus. Should have alot done today and definitely feeling much more confident about this. I've noticed alot of these wires are dead ends, so it looks alot worse than it is.
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Good luck,
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Well today it begins. NJ Guy stopped by yesterday and gave me some advice and help. I've traced most wires and pulled out the old fuse bus. Should have alot done today and definitely feeling much more confident about this. I've noticed alot of these wires are dead ends, so it looks alot worse than it is.
Glad i could help t^ Not to bad when you start clearing it out
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Good luck! It is a nice day for it. Sometimes it looks worse than it really is.
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Cleared all the wires to the switches and put in the new wiring to the new fuse box. Added fuses, crossed my fingers, hit the battery switch annnnndddd.......SUCCESS!!! Everything worked! I'm actually quite shocked and impressed with myself. Now I just have to ziptie and clean up all the new wires, screw the new fuse box to the wall, and wait for my order of marinetex to come so I can fill in all the old worn out screw holes, sand and drill new ones and button it all up. Now I know every connection in the boat and feel alot more confident that they won't let me down at sea. t^
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Awesome Mike!
Told ya bro lol not that scary TT^
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way to go. little sweat equals alot of piece og mind
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t^ NICE JOB clp
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Great Job t^
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Good for you. Nice when you accomplish somethinging that appears intimidating at first. Now it's time to post up the after pics. t^
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Good for you. Nice when you accomplish somethinging that appears intimidating at first. Now it's time to post up the after pics. t^
Still a ways off from pics. I'm still tucking them away and zip tying them . The new fusebox is tucked in and fastened. I had to use one of the old ones to accommodate 3 extra connections. I used it only for components with inline fuses. I didn't mess with the motor harness wires at all and don't plan to. Those wires are in good shape but admittedly messy. Left on my checklist is to continue organizing the wires, put in new LED Spreaders and rewire them, marine tex the existing console, create a new dashboard template out of starboard and put all tachs and switches on the new dash, change waterpump/impeller, change zincs, And then compound, polish, and wax the whole thing.
Then she goes swimming t^
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Not too big of a laundry list t^
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Daylight savings time is coming too. That always helps when working on the boat. t^
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Daylight savings time is coming too. That always helps when working on the boat. t^
Yup, I suspect alot of this will be done by next week. Believe it or not I have the go ahead to slip it anytime I want, but no water or electricity till April. I want to get in on some of those Capt Carl back bay early striper specials ;D
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Daylight savings time is coming too. That always helps when working on the boat. t^
Yup, I suspect alot of this will be done by next week. Believe it or not I have the go ahead to slip it anytime I want, but no water or electricity till April. I want to get in on some of those Capt Carl back bay early striper specials ;D
WHOOO HOOOO t^ t^ t^
Back bay stripers ;) ;)
PS Mike I have all Misner hole saws if you need--just call t^ t^
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LED Spreaders came in today as well as the Marinetex. Got some supplies on my lunch break and am gonna start working this evening. Gonna decide if I want to pull back shrink to do the spreaders, or just sand down all the old worn screw holes on the console and fill them with Marinetex. Spreaders would be so much more fun but I know Once I pull back that cover it's gonna snow.
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Im not gonna give advice here but i would pull the plastic t^
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Plastic is pulled, spreaders wired and working. Free set of working halogens to the first person who can take them at the banquet.
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Plastic is pulled, spreaders wired and working. Free set of working halogens to the first person who can take them at the banquet.
Put them aside for me. At least now I know I am "winning" something!
Fred
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Plastic is pulled, spreaders wired and working. Free set of working halogens to the first person who can take them at the banquet.
Put them aside for me. At least now I know I am "winning" something!
Fred
Done! See you there.
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Mike I hope you carried a big note pad through this project so youmade yourself lots of notes. Mike Velcro makes a wrap thats nicer when you get near the your switches, makes it a little easier if you run into a problem. t^
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Mike I hope you carried a big note pad through this project so youmade yourself lots of notes. Mike Velcro makes a wrap thats nicer when you get near the your switches, makes it a little easier if you run into a problem. t^
Sure did, not only that but I've labeled the new fuse box and have labels along the wires. I now know what every wire in that boat does, and I've also made it much easier to track them down through the walls. It's a pretty good feeling.
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Finishing up the marinetex work today. Also rerunning the daisy chain connections for dashlights and tachlights. Starboard coming tomorrow, then I will carefully map out and cut it to fit as my new dashboard and transfer everything over to it.
Water pump, 2 low pressure fuel pumps, shift position switch relay all on their way. Will do the engine work next week and then clean, compound, polish, and wax the whole thing and she's headed back to the marina, hopefully to drop her in.
2 and a half years ago I joined this site without much of a clue. Pretty proud of the things I've accomplished with a ton of help from all of you guys. t^
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clp clp clp
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Wat to go Mike t^ t^
It's always nice to know what to look for when you do it yourself clp
Like I said if you need any hole saws let me know.
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I hope you did not use write on labels. Mine faded an are no longer legible. Electricians number book and a notepad will be better on my next boat. t^
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I hope you did not use write on labels. Mine faded an are no longer legible. Electricians number book and a notepad will be better on my next boat. t^
Used the elec #'s book on wires, and bought custom labels for the fuse box and dash. Stumbled across that book by accident, what an awesome find.
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Daisy chained all the gauges. I never noticed, but the backlights only worked on Nav and not on anchor. I wanted them to light on both so I rewired it to do so. Basically spliced off both terminal posts of the nav light switch, ran that to the right dashlight and then ran a positive lead to each gauge and then ended on the left dashlight. Then ran the negatives back the same way and down to the negative fuse bus. Ended the evening filling the rest of the holes with marinetex and cleaned all my mess and tools up and covered the helm since it's gonna rain. Pulled off the zincs on the motor mount and trim tabs as well. I have my son this weekend so likely not gonna get much done, maybe just paint the transducer and trim tabs. Hopefully the weather cooperates next week with the daylight savings and I'll be all done by the weekend.
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ok so now that your a pro whats your ourly rate
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Stong work!
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ok so now that your a pro whats your ourly rate
Contant supply of beer, maybe some pizza if I get hungry. slt
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ok so now that your a pro whats your ourly rate
Contant supply of beer, maybe some pizza if I get hungry. slt
Hell, I'd take you up on that offer. What do you drink lol
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ok so now that your a pro whats your ourly rate
Contant supply of beer, maybe some pizza if I get hungry. slt
Hell, I'd take you up on that offer. What do you drink lol
I'm a cheap date, Bud Light, Coors Light, Miller Light all work for me. In all seriousness I'm always happy to help where I can. I love doing this stuff and helping others serves to help me learn more.
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Nice Job Mike t^
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Hit my first real snag today. Was cutting out the new dash and my pinkie finger somehow made it into one of the guideholesand my finger got pulled in and caught between the guide and the drill. Cut straight down through the nail to the bone then exited out the front of my finger. 3 hours in the hospital with a few very carefully and strategically placed stitches and it's sorta back together. The throbbing it starting to kick in fcp fcp
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Hit my first real snag today. Was cutting out the new dash and my pinkie finger somehow made it into one of the guideholesand my finger got pulled in and caught between the guide and the drill. Cut straight down through the nail to the bone then exited out the front of my finger. 3 hours in the hospital with a few very carefully and strategically placed stitches and it's sorta back together. The throbbing it starting to kick in fcp fcp
OUCH! Finger injuries hurt like a mo-fo. Good luck!
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Hit my first real snag today. Was cutting out the new dash and my pinkie finger somehow made it into one of the guideholesand my finger got pulled in and caught between the guide and the drill. Cut straight down through the nail to the bone then exited out the front of my finger. 3 hours in the hospital with a few very carefully and strategically placed stitches and it's sorta back together. The throbbing it starting to kick in fcp fcp
eeeeeeeek fcp Dumbie whyd you put your hand there ;D
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Those Dremels are highly efficient cutting tools.
Sincerely, my pinkie finger
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Hit my first real snag today. Was cutting out the new dash and my pinkie finger somehow made it into one of the guideholesand my finger got pulled in and caught between the guide and the drill. Cut straight down through the nail to the bone then exited out the front of my finger. 3 hours in the hospital with a few very carefully and strategically placed stitches and it's sorta back together. The throbbing it starting to kick in fcp fcp
Mike --told you I had all the stuff to do it :headscra:
I know what it is worked on Chasin Tales boat this week smk rofla rofla
The before and after pics
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I know, I was working ftrom home and figured I'd get some time in during my lunch break. It's really starting to throb now, thankfully docs gave me percs. Gonna be night night time soon.
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I know, I was working ftrom home and figured I'd get some time in during my lunch break. It's really starting to throb now, thankfully docs gave me percs. Gonna be night night time soon.
In that case here you go
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I know, I was working ftrom home and figured I'd get some time in during my lunch break. It's really starting to throb now, thankfully docs gave me percs. Gonna be night night time soon.
Add a beer or two so you don't get an upset stomach.
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OOOOFFFFAAAAA.....
Work in a shop for a living so been there...done that...6 or so times!!!
Finger injuries suck! Perc and Vikes are your best friends for 2 days or so!!!
Here ya go, this is what ya get with a cherry picker that decides its done hanging an engine in mid air..... ::)
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ouch
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thud
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Now I can at least say I've put alot of blood and sweat into this boat
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fcp thud rgmn fcp thud rgmn
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eeeewwww lokks like a blue fish bite
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When we talk about getting BLOOD on the decks, it's not suppose to be your own smk fcp Your lucky you didn't lose you finger dude nosmly
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Don't tell the Mrs, but I finished up the dash today. Tomorrow I finish wiring it all back up and then I'm gonna change out the shift position sensor and the low pressure fuel pumps on the engine. My buddy is coming to help me this weekend with buttoning up the helm and polish/waxing it. I need the extra hands to hold everything down as I drill new holes to fasten it down.
Only thing, in the midst of all this I broke the plexiglass visor that goes over the console top to shield the dash from sun and rain. anyone know where I can go with dimensions to get a custom piece made?
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Is it just a flat piece of plexi??
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Is it just a flat piece of plexi??
I technically could get away with that, but the old piece stuck out about 2-3 inches like a visor and folded over on each side of the console. It helps keep the dashlights from getting into your field of view at night.
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Not understanding :headscra:
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Not understanding :headscra:
Think he means this--reply # 6
http://njsaltwaterfisherman.com/forums/index.php?topic=26205.0
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Not understanding :headscra:
Think he means this--reply # 6
http://njsaltwaterfisherman.com/forums/index.php?topic=26205.0
Exactly. I dropped it and it shattered. It was falling apart to begin with, so a new one is def in order.
BTW, fuel pumps changed, shift position sensor replaced, dash and console all buttoned back up. All with one useless finger. I can see the finish line.
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t^ t^
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OK< ran into problem #2. It tur4ns out after doing some research that pretty much nothing sticks to starboard. How the heck will I label the switches?
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epoxy. or stamp them
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OK< ran into problem #2. It tur4ns out after doing some research that pretty much nothing sticks to starboard. How the heck will I label the switches?
I am about to work with Starboard for the first time myself and I do see in their literature "If gluing is absolutely necessary products such as 3M's Scotch-weld DP-8005 and Lord Corp. 7540-AB have been used with some success.
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3M's Scotch-Weld DP-8005 glue
Lord Corporation's 7540-AB glue
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I also read the same about starboard.
Bought these labels from West.....http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=17274&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50523&subdeptNum=50549&classNum=50552
Lightly scuffed the starboard where the label would be placed over the switch and pressed the labels on. Been there for 6 years and still holding well.
....also. If you go to Lockwoods, they have hard plastic labels, sold individually, that have provisions for 2 screw holes to hold them on. That was my backup plan if the adhesive ones didnt work, just never had to go that route.
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I also read the same about starboard.
Bought these labels from West.....http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=17274&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50523&subdeptNum=50549&classNum=50552
Lightly scuffed the starboard where the label would be placed over the switch and pressed the labels on. Been there for 6 years and still holding well.
....also. If you go to Lockwoods, they have hard plastic labels, sold individually, that have provisions for 2 screw holes to hold them on. That was my backup plan if the adhesive ones didnt work, just never had to go that route.
You made my day, those are the exact labels I'm using. Thanks!
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After you scuff lightly (if I remember right I used 400 grit sandpaper) wipe it with rubbing alcohol, and let dry before pressing the labels on.
Like I said, labels held fine, even after many hours in hot direct sunlight.
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Done!!! Polished, waxed, slid the boat off the rollers a bit and finished up the bottom paint. Gonna tow her back tomorrow and try and do a quick shakedown with the Mrs. Only think that sucks is my marina is now saying no go for the slip until April 1st. 3 weeks ago they said whenever I want 5hrug
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Done!!! Polished, waxed, slid the boat off the rollers a bit and finished up the bottom paint. Gonna tow her back tomorrow and try and do a quick shakedown with the Mrs. Only think that sucks is my marina is now saying no go for the slip until April 1st. 3 weeks ago they said whenever I want 5hrug
Good job! That really sucks about the slip. Whats the reason?
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Done!!! Polished, waxed, slid the boat off the rollers a bit and finished up the bottom paint. Gonna tow her back tomorrow and try and do a quick shakedown with the Mrs. Only think that sucks is my marina is now saying no go for the slip until April 1st. 3 weeks ago they said whenever I want 5hrug
Said even though my slip is ready, others are not. He said he doesn't want his other customers getting upset that boats are in the water and their slip isn't ready. I can live with it......I guess/
Good job! That really sucks about the slip. Whats the reason?
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Done!!! Polished, waxed, slid the boat off the rollers a bit and finished up the bottom paint. Gonna tow her back tomorrow and try and do a quick shakedown with the Mrs. Only think that sucks is my marina is now saying no go for the slip until April 1st. 3 weeks ago they said whenever I want 5hrug
Said even though my slip is ready, others are not. He said he doesn't want his other customers getting upset that boats are in the water and their slip isn't ready. I can live with it......I guess/
Good job! That really sucks about the slip. Whats the reason?
I'm sure once the other docks are in then it will be fine t^
Some has to do with INS. and some don't need boats around when adding a dock next to yours--again INS.
Swing a floating dock and it hits your boat--Who pays??
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You got a lot of work done, sucks you have to wait for the slip. Have a great season.
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Done!!! Polished, waxed, slid the boat off the rollers a bit and finished up the bottom paint. Gonna tow her back tomorrow and try and do a quick shakedown with the Mrs. Only think that sucks is my marina is now saying no go for the slip until April 1st. 3 weeks ago they said whenever I want 5hrug
Said even though my slip is ready, others are not. He said he doesn't want his other customers getting upset that boats are in the water and their slip isn't ready. I can live with it......I guess/
Good job! That really sucks about the slip. Whats the reason?
I'm sure once the other docks are in then it will be fine t^
Some has to do with INS. and some don't need boats around when adding a dock next to yours--again INS.
Swing a floating dock and it hits your boat--Who pays??
Yeah, my only beef with that is there's already a couple guys in the water. They let rack storage customers who want to go out early stay in slips until the rack service starts. The finger docks they need to put in are nowhere near my boat. If push came to shove I don't think he'd mind if I really pressed, just not sure I want to yet. I was gonna use the low tide excuse since the ramp is only useful at high tide, but there will be plenty of water all evening lol.
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Welp, scratch tonight. My insurance lapsed last week so it doesn't pick up until midnight tonight. Not gonna tow and drive without insurance. On the flip side, I think a nice day off from work on Thursday might be in order >:D
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t^ Good luck with the shakedown!
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t^