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Title: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Duffman on October 09, 2012, 06:55:01 PM
Sitting here with my 10 yr old and he asks the question about fluke keeper size when I was his age.

Did the whole google/yahoo search..."history of nj fluke regs, when did fluke regs begin"....etc..came up empty.

Anyone have any info or remember offhand?  Defintely got me interested as to when all this started.

Kinda remember a 13" min size early 80's??  Could be wrong??
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: BigAl13 on October 09, 2012, 07:03:02 PM
i remember it being 14" in like 92-93
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: paul-e on October 09, 2012, 07:04:05 PM
Here's 1998
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/news/marregs.htm
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Fishin Dude on October 09, 2012, 08:14:00 PM
When I was a 10 year old kid, my brothers and I kept everything we caught, thinking we were big game fishermen. ;DAt that time kids could get away with anything. Now-a-Days, kids can get arrested for anything.
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Capt. Carl on October 09, 2012, 08:36:33 PM
Pretty sure it was 1992.....i remember coming back from the Gulf War in Aug 1992....went fluking with dad and being like
 :headscra:  dad...what do u mean 14 inches to keep?....u must be hungry as hell with all the 12 inchers you catch!   rofla

If the limit was before 92.....i must have violated every year from 1978 thru 1989 as i was fishing the jetties of brigantine  every morning of the summer catching Fluke,Weakies,Kings and Blackfish since the age of 8 until i went into the service.
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Bucktail on October 09, 2012, 08:42:49 PM
Hmmm...  I thought I remember having fluke regs in the mid-eighties. :headscra:
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Capt. Carl on October 09, 2012, 08:50:14 PM
Couldnt find a regulation sheet....but i did find a philly news article dated Dec 6...1992
Title says jersey to implement Fluke regs....so was prob 1993 then?

http://articles.philly.com/1992-12-06/sports/25993638_1_recreational-anglers-mid-atlantic-fishery-management-council-minimum-size/2
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Bucktail on October 09, 2012, 08:56:36 PM
From that article it would appear that a bag limit was established starting in 1992 or 1993.  However, I still think there were minimum size regulations well before that.  But, I can't say exactly when they started.

"States are now required to establish, for recreational fishing, a 14-inch minimum size limit on fluke - New Jersey's is currently 13 inches - and to set a daily limit of six fluke per angler."
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Mr Limpett on October 09, 2012, 08:58:32 PM
I remember when it was 12". A 3 lb. fish could win the pool.
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Post by: IrishAyes on October 09, 2012, 09:00:05 PM
From page 1 of that news article, first and second paragraph.

Quote
Recreational anglers who fish for summer flounder off the New Jersey coast will encounter, for the first time, a shortened season and a daily possession limit in 1993, officials of the state Division of Fish, Game and Wildlife said last week.

New Jersey will implement its new rules to comply with new federal regulations that apply to states along the East Coast, said Bruce Freeman, a division research scientist.

http://articles.philly.com/1992-12-06/sports/25993638_1_recreational-anglers-mid-atlantic-fishery-management-council-minimum-size
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Bucktail on October 09, 2012, 09:07:06 PM
That's what I was reading.  It says they are establishing a possession limit.  However, I believe there was a minimum size well before then. :headscra:
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Capt. Carl on October 09, 2012, 09:11:54 PM
Could be absolutely right Bob.....in the 80's....i was a teen and could care less about a size limit.....but trust me...i have changed  ;D
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Bucktail on October 09, 2012, 09:15:45 PM
Could be absolutely right Bob.....in the 80's....i was a teen and could care less about a size limit.....but trust me...i have changed  ;D

Have you really changed Carl? rofla
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Hunter 2 on October 09, 2012, 09:19:53 PM
Spandex era?    thud
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Capt. Carl on October 09, 2012, 09:20:59 PM
Not really....nope.  >:D
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Capt. Carl on October 09, 2012, 09:22:45 PM
Eddie...dont you even start....my boat throws one hell of a wake
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Hunter 2 on October 09, 2012, 09:39:17 PM
I've got some old pics from that era from Battle of the Bands in high school.  ;D

I believe the size limit for Fluke in New York was 14" in the late 70's and early  80's  I don't remember how many though.
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Post by: BigAl13 on October 09, 2012, 09:40:03 PM
Spandex era?    thud

More like spandex error  fcp
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Post by: IKAT on October 10, 2012, 05:54:46 AM
I know  1988 was 13 inch  but not sure when the bag limit started but it was 10 fish limit for sure when it started
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Post by: DJ76 on October 10, 2012, 07:56:39 AM
Spandex era?    thud

More like spandex error  fcp

 rofla
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Ms Fish on October 10, 2012, 12:47:56 PM
I remember when it was 12". A 3 lb. fish could win the pool.
Me too 12' when we fished the LB pier... no doubt in my mind about it!   
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Ms Fish on October 10, 2012, 12:49:11 PM
Could be absolutely right Bob.....in the 80's....i was a teen and could care less about a size limit.....but trust me...i have changed  ;D

Have you really changed Carl? rofla

hhppy I LOVE THIS PHOTO! I saved it actually!!!!  rofla
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Reel McCoy on October 10, 2012, 07:51:46 PM
I remember there was a size limit on fluke in New York back in the late 60s.  The rental skiffs in Moriches had wooden cutouts to measure your fish.  I think 14" was the size limit, I don't remember a creel limit.  The size limit for bass was 16" back then.
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Duffman on October 11, 2012, 07:35:54 PM
Used to sail on the Palace outta Hoboken with my father.  Left Hoboken and shot across river to pick up the NY crew before heading out.  

Which brings the question, and I clearly cant remember, did the NY guys have to adhere to NY regs???  Hopefully someone remembers what Im talking about!
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Reel McCoy on October 11, 2012, 11:58:36 PM
Duff, I remember fishing on the Palace back in the '70s getting picked up on the New York side.  I think we were bottom fishing and porgies, sea bass and blackfish did not have size limits back then.
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: BigAl13 on October 12, 2012, 09:18:33 AM
in the 70's no wonder you were dancing onthe seadevil
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: Reel McCoy on October 12, 2012, 11:51:56 AM
in the 70's no wonder you were dancing onthe seadevil
My problem is that I don't remember most of the 60's  TT^
Title: Re: Fluke regs...when they start???
Post by: IKAT on October 12, 2012, 12:33:22 PM
in the 70's no wonder you were dancing onthe seadevil
My problem is that I don't remember most of the 60's  TT^


I remember but chose to forget--AAHHHH not really   TT^ TT^