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General Forum => NJ Saltwater Fisherman Customs => Topic started by: DJ76 on January 01, 2013, 02:53:51 PM
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thinking of starting to make my own sinkers but curious if its really that cost effective. 5hrug sinkers are running me anywhere from .2 - .3 cents an ounce. fish mainly 6, 8, & 10 ounce bank sinkers. thinking of buying some molds which are going to run me around 35 bucks than i have to get the lead melt etc. just curious how many of you out there do it yourselves and whether or not you find it worthwhile? thanks for the feedback grtn
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Sam the Sinker Man
nuff said.
OK maybe not:
IMO too much trouble to DIY with Sam around.
Plus you can talk fishin with him for hours if you want.... Great guy
PM me if you need his number
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2-3 cents an ounce?!?!?! If you can get them at that price, buy them and sell them! That is ridiculously cheap! Most are getting 20 cents an ounce.
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sinkers are running me anywhere from .2 - .3 cents an ounce.
I know you know this and just read it wrong Joe. .2-.3 = .20-.30 = 20-30 cents an ounce.
And I agree. He would have a heck of a business opportunity if he could get them for 2 or 3 cents an ounce. ;D
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Only worth it if you get the lead for free, and plan on making a ton of them
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http://njsaltwaterfisherman.com/forums/index.php?topic=30114.0
We went over this topic recently, I decided against it.
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2-3 cents an ounce?!?!?! If you can get them at that price, buy them and sell them! That is ridiculously cheap! Most are getting 20 cents an ounce.
sorry...forgot the zeros!!!! yes 20 - 30 an oucne
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http://njsaltwaterfisherman.com/forums/index.php?topic=30114.0
We went over this topic recently, I decided against it.
thx limpett. just read up on that.
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2-3 cents an ounce?!?!?! If you can get them at that price, buy them and sell them! That is ridiculously cheap! Most are getting 20 cents an ounce.
sorry...forgot the zeros!!!! yes 20 - 30 an oucne
Yeah, I kinda thought that. I do make my own sinkers, but I supply everyone on my boat with them. :P
If you are making them for your own use, buy them from Sam the Sinkerman.
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ya well, everyone seems to "borrow" my sinkers on my boat as well cause they only brought a "few" with them. ::)
so yes it would be for me...but that usually includes a bunch of people before the year is up.
My father in law has all the stuff to melt the lead so only thing I need is the mold AND the lead. My idea for the lead was to "trade" for the other metals I scrap. I've been making 2-3 metal trips a year to the junkyard and making a few hundred bucks, so I figured I can swap out some cash for some lead...not exactly free but not expensive either.
the way I'm looking at it is if I buy an 8oz mold for 40 bucks I'd have to make 20 sinkers to esentially break-even. hell I probablly went through a dozen this year alone. I'm thinking that ain't such a bad thing. 5hrug
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Only worth it if you get the lead for free, and plan on making a ton of them
Al nailed it ... t^
I only make flat bank sinkers for blackfishing because I get free lead and tend to loose a lot while togging...More of a convenience than anything else...
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ya well, everyone seems to "borrow" my sinkers on my boat as well cause they only brought a "few" with them. ::)
so yes it would be for me...but that usually includes a bunch of people before the year is up.
My father in law has all the stuff to melt the lead so only thing I need is the mold AND the lead. My idea for the lead was to "trade" for the other metals I scrap. I've been making 2-3 metal trips a year to the junkyard and making a few hundred bucks, so I figured I can swap out some cash for some lead...not exactly free but not expensive either.
the way I'm looking at it is if I buy an 8oz mold for 40 bucks I'd have to make 20 sinkers to esentially break-even. hell I probablly went through a dozen this year alone. I'm thinking that ain't such a bad thing. 5hrug
Heres the kicker, the scrap yard buys lead from you for 10 cents a lb then sells it to you for 1 buck a lb. Thats around 7 cents an 0z the metal your scrapping is even if steel 10 bucks per 100lbs so you would need 1,000 lbs of steel for 100 pounds of lead so like I said unless you get the lead for free and or already have the molds 5hrug Plus $40 bucks buys one mold in flat banks you get one sinker per mold in either 8, 10, or 12,oz so for
$120 you can make 3 different sinkers. Not trying to discourage you just letting you know all the things I had to find out when I was thinking like you t^
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ya well, everyone seems to "borrow" my sinkers on my boat as well cause they only brought a "few" with them. ::)
so yes it would be for me...but that usually includes a bunch of people before the year is up.
My father in law has all the stuff to melt the lead so only thing I need is the mold AND the lead. My idea for the lead was to "trade" for the other metals I scrap. I've been making 2-3 metal trips a year to the junkyard and making a few hundred bucks, so I figured I can swap out some cash for some lead...not exactly free but not expensive either.
the way I'm looking at it is if I buy an 8oz mold for 40 bucks I'd have to make 20 sinkers to esentially break-even. hell I probablly went through a dozen this year alone. I'm thinking that ain't such a bad thing. 5hrug
Heres the kicker, the scrap yard buys lead from you for 10 cents a lb then sells it to you for 1 buck a lb. Thats around 7 cents an 0z the metal your scrapping is even if steel 10 bucks per 100lbs so you would need 1,000 lbs of steel for 100 pounds of lead so like I said unless you get the lead for free and or already have the molds 5hrug Plus $40 bucks buys one mold in flat banks you get one sinker per mold in either 8, 10, or 12,oz so for
$120 you can make 3 different sinkers. Not trying to discourage you just letting you know all the things I had to find out when I was thinking like you t^
thx bigal. this is type of info looking for. guess i'll have to see if I can get me some lead from somewhere...
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t^ Glad I could help. It use to be easy to get lead, the best people to ask are either your local tire shops (wheel weights), plumbers (old cast iron joints, or Helicopter medics just be careful with the last ones they seem to not be able to tell the difference between lead and steel :P
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t^ Glad I could help. It use to be easy to get lead, the best people to ask are either your local tire shops (wheel weights), plumbers (old cast iron joints, or Helicopter medics just be careful with the last ones they seem to not be able to tell the difference between lead and steel :P
Insert F&^@ Off emoticon here..... LOL ovrbt
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t^ Glad I could help. It use to be easy to get lead, the best people to ask are either your local tire shops (wheel weights), plumbers (old cast iron joints, or Helicopter medics just be careful with the last ones they seem to not be able to tell the difference between lead and steel :P
hmmmnnn...the tire idea I might be able to work with. didn't realize those balance weights were lead...makes complete sense.
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Tire and other places used to give away lead. Now they get paid for it in most cases. It may be difficult to find free lead from tire stores now.
IF you are a member of an indoor gun range that only allows lead that might be an option for you.
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Or you can get your scuba license and dive wherever i fish thud
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IF you are a member of an indoor gun range that only allows lead that might be an option for you.
I live in jersey...there ain't no such thing as a gun range anymore. I belong to one in pennsy but its outdoor, not sure how it would look with me raking out the dirt pile to get some lead.
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I live in jersey...there ain't no such thing as a gun range anymore.
:headscra:
http://www.funnewjersey.com/upload_user/Different_Outdoor_adventures_NJ/SHOOTING_RANGES_NJ.HTM (http://www.funnewjersey.com/upload_user/Different_Outdoor_adventures_NJ/SHOOTING_RANGES_NJ.HTM)
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t^ Glad I could help. It use to be easy to get lead, the best people to ask are either your local tire shops (wheel weights), plumbers (old cast iron joints, or Helicopter medics just be careful with the last ones they seem to not be able to tell the difference between lead and steel :P
I'd like to hear the steel story. ;D
Probably something I would do. :P
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t^ Glad I could help. It use to be easy to get lead, the best people to ask are either your local tire shops (wheel weights), plumbers (old cast iron joints, or Helicopter medics just be careful with the last ones they seem to not be able to tell the difference between lead and steel :P
I'd like to hear the steel story. ;D
Probably something I would do. :P
Paul-e
Don't worry about the sinkers, we will take care of that.
You just drive the boat. rofla
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Paul-e
Don't worry about the sinkers, we will take care of that.
You just drive the boat. rofla
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I could be the "Poster Boy" for boating safety courses. rofla chrz
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Paul-e
Don't worry about the sinkers, we will take care of that.
You just drive the boat. rofla
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t^ rofla
I could be the "Poster Boy" for boating safety courses. rofla chrz
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:headscra:
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Someday over a few cold ones I'll tell you a few stories about my boat owner days John. ;D
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Paule's got some good boat owning stories too t^
I think we all do that have had or have boats...
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Someday over a few cold ones I'll tell you a few stories about my boat owner days John. ;D
Did someone sell you a lead boat? hhppy
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I live in jersey...there ain't no such thing as a gun range anymore.
:headscra:
http://www.funnewjersey.com/upload_user/Different_Outdoor_adventures_NJ/SHOOTING_RANGES_NJ.HTM (http://www.funnewjersey.com/upload_user/Different_Outdoor_adventures_NJ/SHOOTING_RANGES_NJ.HTM)
don't feel like driving to belleville from clinton...not sure what costs more the ammo or the fuel bill to get there. also, most of these ranges are 25yds or less with no rifle ranges. the cost is utterly ridiculous as well. just an opinion. so my "broad" comment about gun ranges in NJ stands corrected though.
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We in NJ do have some nice ranges. Some are very well organized clubs with an annual dues and dedicated time to volunteer. I have had the opportunity to use some, I just don't have enough dough for membership. My fishing habit uses most of my allowance if you know what I mean.
Cheers,
Mike
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We in NJ do have some nice ranges. Some are very well organized clubs with an annual dues and dedicated time to volunteer. I have had the opportunity to use some, I just don't have enough dough for membership. My fishing habit uses most of my allowance if you know what I mean.
Cheers,
Mike
seventy bucks a year at easton fish and game. handgun range, 22 range, shotgun range and a 200yd rifle range. 75 bucks a year come and go as you please. guest pass is like 100 bucks. so i can take family and friends for 100 bucks multiple times during the year. most ranges in jersey want that for an hour.
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This one is $20.00 an hour for handgun 25 for rifle.
http://www.rtsponline.com
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went to the scrap yard this week. FYI selling lead for $0.75/#.
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t^ Not too bad is it clean. If not make sure you wear a respirator
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well wound up buying some lead off my tire place. paid him twenty bucks for half a bucket. just put it on the scale and read little over 45 pounds. looks clean and no scrapy stuff in it. Tire guys going to start saving specifically for me. Figured definately a solid 40 pounds in there.
Finally said screw it going to start making my own. plus brother in law and his boss are chipping in and buying some a little over cost to help recoup on the mold cost. thanks for all the input fellas slt
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Good luck, have fun making the sinkers. Just be sure to do it outdoors and wear a mask. t^
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Good luck, have fun making the sinkers. Just be sure to do it outdoors and wear a mask. t^
And gloves lead is 660+ degrees burns pretty good
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what do I need a mask and gloves for ;)
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what do I need a mask and gloves for ;)
Lead fumes and dust are toxic.
http://blog.pksafety.com/tag/lead-fumes/
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what do I need a mask and gloves for ;)
Hint a dust mask will not help. A certain Mask is needed. that controls fumes. not a cheap item. Gloves ? The lead and Molds are hot. Saftey glasses are not a bad idea eaither. Keep away from any water sorse. water and molten lead will expload. Another Hint Candle smoke the mold first. Light a Candle and hold close to the inside of the mold cavity and Blacken it with the soot from the candle. this will cure the mold against sticking. sinkers. When the mold gets to hot let it cool before casting each batch. And with those wheel Weights you will get a lot of skum that has to be skimmed off. The Lead should have a Blue cast that showes its ready to pour.
Made My own Sinkers and Black Powder Balls & bullets. Not to mention 100s of pound in kettles of molten lead at GM for roof line sealing in the body shop. No Longer used. The men working with it wore special clothes. air supplied Helmet masks and tested monthly for lead poisioning The area was sealed form the rest of the Plant. Be Safe and good luck. Bill
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I have a neighbor that makes them and sells them real cheap. $.12 per oz.. Looking at all this equipment, this hobbie can be expensive if you want to get various molds. From protective gear, to equipment, molds, lead, propane, your time etc.. In my opinion, I would just buy what I need from at a good cost.
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I have a neighbor that makes them and sells them real cheap. $.12 per oz.. Looking at all this equipment, this hobbie can be expensive if you want to get various molds. From protective gear, to equipment, molds, lead, propane, your time etc.. In my opinion, I would just buy what I need from at a good cost.
Also at Flea Markets. A guy in Key Port and another in Matawan, have them cheap,
I stared out with Spark Plugs wnen I was a Kid, as My Grandfather did. Even used window sash weights off shore. Bill
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guys, i'm kidding about the mask and gloves fcp
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TT^
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The masks are silvee welding masks I have some
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guys, i'm kidding about the mask and gloves fcp
Im Not the gases & fumes will kill you.And the Lead and the molds are HOT. One never thinks that when you handle Lead you should wash your hands with soap and water. Lead poisoning is not A Good thing. Al will bear me out on this as he is exposed to it in the power plant. Bill
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guys, i'm kidding about the mask and gloves fcp
Lead poisoning is not A Good thing. Bill
From my experience as a paramedic, poisoning of any sort is not a good thing. ovrbt
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my post went from asking about sinkers to firearm ranges to safety to poisoning. anyone care to add anything else? rofla
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Yeah it did but its not a total derailment all of those are relivant in this. Now that ham samitch i had for lunch yesterday is a different story :P
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Sorry I thought you were asking for advise or help On making sinkers. Good Luck . Bill
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Yeah it did but its not a total derailment all of those are relivant in this. Now that ham samitch i had for lunch yesterday is a different story :P
I like cheese and spicy mustard on a lunch meat samitch? Not overly fond of the ham though, rather have roast beef. A little bit of lettuce too. ;D
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Sorry I thought you were asking for advise or help On making sinkers. Good Luck . Bill
Chill out Bill. I enjoy your posts! Just an observation on the thread, thought it was funny and could care less where it goes. Not upset in the least. This site is about helping each other out (which you have done) and enjoyment.
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No problem words have no feelings, I just offered a apology if you felt I steered it off topic. Last word. Bill