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Title: 6/24/13...Water Spout of loveladies NJ
Post by: Kenny on June 25, 2013, 08:31:26 AM
Carefull....laungage !!

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Post by: Ms Fish on June 25, 2013, 08:49:11 AM
Cool Kenny but what is it? The beginning of a Tornado?  
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Post by: Bucktail on June 25, 2013, 09:01:13 AM
 o@
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Post by: fluke - u on June 25, 2013, 10:03:48 AM
 cfzd...Very cool post.... chrz
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Post by: fellinger on June 25, 2013, 11:02:23 AM
Cool Kenny but what is it? The beginning of a Tornado?  

It is essentially a weak tornado over water. I don't think they can last over land. Maybe Matt can give us more insight.
Title: Re: 6/24/13...Water Spout of loveladies NJ
Post by: Pfishingruven on June 25, 2013, 11:49:20 AM
Cool video!  Was looking for this last night...

It is a waterspout.  There are essentially two types of waterspouts, tornadic and non-tornadic.  In this case, this was a funnel cloud/vortex of water caused by a non-supercell cloud and was not tornadic.  They form due to the difference in temperatures of air aloft and surface air of the water.  These waterspouts are usually weaker, however 75+mph winds can do a lot of damage and they can come ashore.  A waterspout came ashore last night in Tampa, Florida and took trees down and caused major power outages.  Once over land they will either dissipate or if conditions are right could cycle and evolve into a tornadic supercell.  On the other hand, a tornadic supercell with a mesocyclone (the rotating cloud) and wall cloud forming into a funnel cloud can also form over water and continue once over land.  A tornadic waterspout is very dangerous with winds over 80mph and increasing to 200+ mph.

Something to note is that the NWS will only issue a Marine Warning for a waterspout.  They will not usually issue a tornado warning unless the waterspout is coming ashore or is tornadic in nature.

You can also get cold core funnels, landspouts, dust devils, snow devils and fire whirls to name a few.  These are most similar to non-tornadic waterspouts and occur due to temperature gradients!
Title: Re: 6/24/13...Water Spout of loveladies NJ
Post by: Ms Fish on June 25, 2013, 11:55:36 AM
Interesting to say the least Matt! Thanks!  t^
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Post by: fluke - u on June 25, 2013, 11:57:07 AM
 t^..Thanks for clearing that up Matt.... chrz
Title: Re: 6/24/13...Water Spout of loveladies NJ
Post by: Still Running on June 25, 2013, 12:38:58 PM
Cool video!  Was looking for this last night...

It is a waterspout.  There are essentially two types of waterspouts, tornadic and non-tornadic.  In this case, this was a funnel cloud/vortex of water caused by a non-supercell cloud and was not tornadic.  They form due to the difference in temperatures of air aloft and surface air of the water.  These waterspouts are usually weaker, however 75+mph winds can do a lot of damage and they can come ashore.  A waterspout came ashore last night in Tampa, Florida and took trees down and caused major power outages.  Once over land they will either dissipate or if conditions are right could cycle and evolve into a tornadic supercell.  On the other hand, a tornadic supercell with a mesocyclone (the rotating cloud) and wall cloud forming into a funnel cloud can also form over water and continue once over land.  A tornadic waterspout is very dangerous with winds over 80mph and increasing to 200+ mph.

Something to note is that the NWS will only issue a Marine Warning for a waterspout.  They will not usually issue a tornado warning unless the waterspout is coming ashore or is tornadic in nature.

You can also get cold core funnels, landspouts, dust devils, snow devils and fire whirls to name a few.  These are most similar to non-tornadic waterspouts and occur due to temperature gradients!

That's what I was thinking.
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Post by: Pfishingruven on June 25, 2013, 01:00:39 PM
That's what I was thinking.

 ;D  That's OK, when you start talking mechanics, that's my response as well.  I am about as mechanical...well you get the point ovrbt!
Title: Re: 6/24/13...Water Spout of loveladies NJ
Post by: Still Running on June 25, 2013, 01:05:35 PM
That's what I was thinking.

 ;D  That's OK, when you start talking mechanics, that's my response as well.  I am about as mechanical...well you get the point ovrbt!

 ;D  t^
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Post by: Ms Fish on June 25, 2013, 01:25:13 PM
Quote from: Still Running

That's what I was thinking.

 rofla
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Post by: Kenny on June 25, 2013, 05:16:29 PM
That's what I was thinking.

 thud    ;D
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Post by: paul-e on June 25, 2013, 05:23:49 PM
Cool video.  cfzd