NJ Saltwater Fisherman Forums
The Surf Fisherman Forum => From The Surf => Topic started by: Twitch on May 25, 2008, 11:40:49 AM
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Are these legal to use in NJ? want to take one out to Sandy Hook tomorrow and test it out. Was not sure if they had any regulations for that.. Have not seen anything posted about it. Has anyone used these before any advise or tips would be greatly appreciated.
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Bait molds failed will try again in a couple of weeks. Did go out anyway and get my lines wet, didnt even get a bite! Fished from 7:30am till about noon with clams and bunker. Just one of those days, still a better day than a great day at work. Gotta learn the area more I guess.
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Did you use the launcher? If so, how did it work?
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Nope, The molds I made for the bait failed! Too short for the rigs and gotta figure out a new way to get them out of the mold in a solid form. The launcher worked just fine I was shooting 150 - 200 yards easily with potatoes. I could go buy a set up anywhere from $350 to $800 but I could also get the results I need and not spend $50. Once I get all the bugs worked out and fine tuned I will post the materials and instructions in case anyone else is interested. Until then I will keep you posted on my progress.
Basicly this is a potatoe launcher with a few mods to it that shoots your bait, line and sinker way way out. most of you have probably seem them from time to time at outdoor shows and tackle shops but they are kinda pricey (too pricey for what they are) They really are not that hard to make. If any one has suggestions on the bait molds I am all ears...
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Twitch, if they are the same as a potato launcher, they may be illegal in NJ. Depends on what is used to propel the missle, if I remember correctly. You may want to check with the State Police on that.
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I will do that, I was under the impression that if there is no bang, no flame, no smoke there is no problem.
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Cool!!
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page 27 of this year's marine digest has an advertisement for something called a surf rocket that uses compressed air.
i'm guessing that if dfw allows an ad for it in one of their publications, then you're probably good to go.
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Ash, have you forgotten? This is New Jersey, you can't assume anything about this god-forsaken state. :P
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00ps TT^
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Hi everyone, I have seen the surf rocket and I know the guy that sells them has been on our site before. I am sure he will chime in soon once he gets on after the weekend.
I have not seen them in operation but I have heard them on IBSP being used. Compressed air is used but as far as illegal I think they are OK for now.
You might want to PM Surfrocket to find out as he is the one that sells them.
Happy Catching
Paul
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Contacted state police and was directed to a 3 differant extensions...lol.. no one was sure 5hrug
I left my name,number and email addy for them to get back to me... When I know, youll know
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My Wife is the Executive Assistant to the Colonel of the NJSP.. I'll have her get you and answer tomorrow. t^
And yes.. SurfRocket is the maker of The Surf Rocket t^
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Awsome... Thanks a bunch... slt
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Here is a response I recieved in an email this AM from the NJSP:
I am writing in response to your inquiry regarding surf fishing on New Jersey beaches. There are no regulations regraind use a bait launcher for surf fishing. Fee free to contact me should you need additional information. Thank you for your inquiry.
Debbie Zook
I have replied to her with more detailed information about the launcher and we will see if the same applies.
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I just got off the phone with NJ fish and game and they told me there are no regulations or laws against these and that for all they care I could launch beer cans from them as long as I dont aim them at people or create a safety issue with them..... rofla
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rofla NICE!
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i was told the same thing t^
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Twitch, if they are the same as a potato launcher, they may be illegal in NJ. Depends on what is used to propel the missle, if I remember correctly. You may want to check with the State Police on that.
Yea DFW aint too up to date on that stuff not that you would get in trouble but technically since it can propel a missle (states words) u could get jammed up. im more worried about the 40 cals out there than i am the bait launchers lol rofla
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In my emails and while on the phone with the NJSP,DEP and Fish & Game I was very descriptive as to what the purpose of and as to what my intensions are and the emission of projectile objects... like I said they told me quote " We dont care if you shoot beer cans out of it! just dont be stupid and cause a safety issue with it! If you launch at or towards people thats an issue, if your launching bait towards the ocean have fun and enjoy your day!
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I dont understand these things. Where do I get them, how much do they cost, what exactly are they called ? How do they take your line out so fast off of your reel without tangling the reel up ? How far do these things shoot. I want one now. chrz slt
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Hey Mark,
You can get them as a number of B&T's Grumpy's in SSP has them. it is called the Surf Rocket. It uses compressed air to propel a frozen cylinder with your bait and hook out close to 500 feet. It is about 7' long and comes complete with everything necessary to launch your offerings out past the breakers. You can also just use it to launch your chum as well.
The cost, well lets say it is $500 on round figures.
Nice idea but I think I will have to stick with my sticks and reels and sheer strength to get my weekly offerings to the fish gods.
Happy Catching
Paul
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I would have more fun donating them to people with handicaps that can not cast or have difficulties in doing so. Veterans would be at the top of my list!
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We have done numerous tests on how to make this properly,and safe. The problem isnt the pvc, its the glue.Along with the glue not holding the pressure, pvc and the glue breaks down with exposure to uv rays.Trust me if it could have been done that way saftly, I would have done it that way.There is a saftey rating for pressure vessels and stored energy containers,and in order to meet the saftey standard pvc can not be used. Within our testing done by refatable engineers, pvc only achieved a number rating of a 2 in this saftey scale. We even tried to use treaded fittings with the glue,and in testing they both came apart.Any container that stores energy or pressure vessle must meet a min rating of a 6 to meet the saftey standard. As for the cost of such a product, this is why it is on the high side. Each tank has to be built to the engineers specs exactly,and then go threw a pressure test that lasts 24 hours,done by a certified pressure vessel engineer.Then there is insurance,but I dont have the time to get into that. I have donated a lot of Surf Rockets to diffrent organazations and handicaped people. It has never been about me me me. I am always out and about helping people and giving back. Anyone can meet me on the beach anytime, I am very open that way. I will never turn my back on a fellow fisherman,and am always looking to meet new people. I can be reached just about any time, my number is all over the web and in a bunch of bait shops. Although the price seems high;450.00, it is still a cheap alternative to a boat. I have rods and reels that cost that much,and the oppertunity to catch something great from the beach, you cant put a price on that. I am in no way trying to stop you from doing what you want to do, all I'm saying is be careful and dont get hurt.
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Thanks, I will definitly keep an eye on the glue thing. God bless you for donating them to Vets! Let me ask you this, What we got going is kinda like what you and several other people have going, I dont want to plug anyones particuler launchers but some are made from coolers with PVC as a launch tube. Is your launch tube made ov Plastic or is the entire unit metal? I understand the safety concept rating and all, The unit we have is not meant to store pressure for 24hrs at a time. Once we load the bait we launch. I never have to bring a battery or compressor to the beach as well. Oh yea I forgot what kind of safety warnings or msds comes with your unit.
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we have a large warning label on the barrel,comon sence labeling really. we dont recomend anyone store air in the surf rocket when its not in use either. that 24 hour period i mentioned is for the safty test to make it avalible to the public. Our air chambers are certified for 1500 psi,so there is no chance of failer.As for our launch tubes we use acrlic tubing, it holds up against the elements and uv rays much more then pvc.The surf rocket weighs in at about 7 pounds, it is not heavy by any means,and breaks down for easy storage.As for your comment about a drain cock in the unit to release the condensation, in theory you have the right idea. You do not want to add another weakness to the air chamber. If that plug comes loose it will be like a bullet, outcome probally not good. Our launch tube easily seperaits from the air chamber, which enables you to wash out and lubricate properly. I do not by any means think i invented the wheel with the surf rocket, I know that there are similar products out there. I just perfected it,and made it as safe as possible.It took a lot of time and money, to put this great product on the market.Although you are not happy with the price,concidering all of factors,the surf rocket is a bargin. I have a few rod and reels that cost more than a surf rocket, I also own a boat. Fuel prices today are threw the roof.Depending where I go, I can eaisly go threw 300 dollars in fuel in a day.Thats not counting fuel to get the boat to the water,tackel,food, really the list can go on.Air and ice is cheep, and it doesnt cause cancer in California. So although the inital cost seems high, in reality you just bought a product that is proven,safe,and affordable to use every day.Not only does the surf rocket launch bait, and give you the ability to chum your area, you can use lures, bunker snags, live bait what ever the situation calls for.To top things off the surf rocket can be used in rescue situations. With the surf rocket you can launch a rope, with either a weighted bean bag or a special compressed life jacket hundreds of feet off shore. Not only does it work to catch monster fish but you can save a life with it also.That my friend you cant put a price on.I know I came off harsh with my first responce,and for that I apologize. I dont knock anyone who puts effort into anything, thats how this country was built God bless us all.And I wish you all the luck in creating your launcher,just be safe. Like I said you can contact me any time. Mabey we can meet up and have the battle of bait launchers, have a great time and catch some fish.
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sorry to get off topic though Jericho rocks and the tv station dont know a boat if it was spelled out in front of them
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Mabey we can meet up and have the battle of bait launchers, have a great time and catch some fish.
I'm coming to see the Battle! It Would be a great time!!!! Maybe I will build a GIANT slingshot and get in on the action rofla hhppy rofla
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I can just see me with one of those things.
Reeling in a sea robin from 2 football fields
away!
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I can just see me with one of those things.
Reeling in a sea robin from 2 football fields
away!
;D
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lol, bucktail been there done that.
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Air and ice is cheap, and it doesnt cause cancer in California.
Give it some time and california will find air and ice to be cancer causing. rofla
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what dosent cause cancer there. i love reading lables that say that. causes cancer in california.... but not in jersey,lol.
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what dosent cause cancer there. i love reading lables that say that. causes cancer in california.... but not in jersey,lol.
On anywhere else for that matter! It makes me laugh everytime I read one!!
rofla hhppy rofla
TT^
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Welcome to california, the cancer state.