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NJ Saltwater Fishing Reports and Information => Helping Each Other Out => Topic started by: Skolmann on September 24, 2008, 10:36:49 AM
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We all by now know the effectiveness of various GULP products (shrimp, swimming minnow/mullet, sandworm etc.) but I was curious if anyone has tried (successfully) the GULP eels. Saw a package yesterday of the 8" version (black) dead ringer for a 'pencil' eel.
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I was in Michael's BnT in Great Kills last week thinking the same thing...
they had the 8in black and they had the brown too...
I think i'm goin back and given both a go...
now if i do use them... what would be the consensus here on the technique to fish them....
i'm guessing similiar to fluke and give it a lil lively action with a pop or two here an there... 5hrug
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what would be the consensus here on the technique to fish them....
I'd fish them as I would a regular eel. Provided they have some built in action.
Michael's B&T is a great shop BTW. Have my reel cleaned/servied there t^
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what would be the consensus here on the technique to fish them....
I'd fish them as I would a regular eel. Provided they have some built in action.
Michael's B&T is a great shop BTW. Have my reel cleaned/servied there t^
see thats the only thing... i dont know how they move in the water without some popping of the pole... i'm gonna have to try it... deadsticking and popping....
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Before dropping to the bottom, just observe the action just below the surface.
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Dick's has the 8" eels in the juice (Gulp Alive)! t^
I have had success using other plastic eels, i.e. the Felmlee type, rigged on a plain old bucktail. But to give them an incredibly realistic swimming action, rig them on a tin squid. The motion of the squid wobbling in the water causes the eel to swim with an unbelievably life-like action! t^
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I'd use them on a jighead or as a bucktail trailer like I use the Felmlee's.
Generally, I've never had confidence fishing a lure as if it was bait...but tht's just me. 5hrug
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Here's a better (larger) pic of a tin squid. ;)
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Tin squids work great in the surf!! Just had to dismantle the 4 I had. The eels were way past their prime. I am going to give the Gulp Eels a try on the tin squids!!
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Years and years ago, when I surf fished, we used to use a dacron? line to tie a second hook onto the tin/eel rig. Do you guys still do that?
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I did with the last setups! I probably will when I give them a try again, although the eels I had were 10 or 12 inches...8 inch Gulps might be ok with just 1 hook 5hrug? Kind of a pain to run that trailing hook and line through the eel, but certainly worth it when you hook up more!!
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Yeah, I had a rigging needle for that. Made it much easier than any other way (keeping the line to the outside usually meant fouled eel).
Still use the needle to put shads on umbrella rig hooks. Get's the hook back further in the shad than just weaving the hook thru the shad by hand. t^
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I am going to have to get a rigging needle...looking right now.
Thanks
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seems to me that you could rig these with a Texas rig like you would for fresh water bass and you would get good action bouncing and retrieving them.
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Pfish, I have several. I can meet you sometime and give you one.
My boat is in Belmar. I am down there quite often. Let me know if you are interested. t^
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Capt Joe, thanks for the offer. After looking them up, I think there may be one or two in the garage somewhere. I thought they were knnitting needles rofla! I am going to look in the morning. If not, I may take you up on your generous offer. I will PM you, thanks!
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Years and years ago, when I surf fished, we used to use a dacron? line to tie a second hook onto the tin/eel rig. Do you guys still do that?
I tried rigging some a long time ago, but they never turned out right. With all the newer stuff out there, I've gotten away from using them. But when I did fish them I would fish the shorter eels (probably 6" to 10") on just the tin squid, with no stinger. The longer eels I usually purchased pre-rigged with the stinger. I remember some had dacron and some were rigged with wire to the stinger.
I probably wouldn't bother rigging a stinger in the 8" eel. Even a little striper could swallow that whole with no problem.
I have some old tin squids in the garage. Maybe I'll buy a quart of those Gulp! eels and try them next time out! t^
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I was more interested to see if they would be productive in place of a live eel when drifitng them on a 3x3 rig in the channels in the Sandy Hook/Raritan Bay area.
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I was more interested to see if they would be productive in place of a live eel when drifitng them on a 3x3 rig in the channels in the Sandy Hook/Raritan Bay area.
Yeah Skolmann, try it out. t^ Probably be a really good test if you do it on a party boat where everyone else has got the real deal and you're dragging the Gulp!
Let us know how you do. ;D
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Not saying much, but I have caught blues on the black 8" Gulp eels.
Also hooked into either a bonito or albie on one, never got it to the boat to find out. Nice run on light tackle before breaking off, even some aerials... t^
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ok... i tried the gulp eel last night off the boat... we anchored up in the raritan at a couple different spots along Staten Island...
a few blue hits here and there... nothing in the boat... didnt drift... it was gettten pretty wicked last night... and we were in a 21ft'r... not looken to go swimmen...
well i tried a hi'lo rig... bunker on the bottom and the eel on the top.. figured the current was gonna give it some action... it looked like it had good action...
and at the end of the night... i got a blue hit that bit the eel in half...
gonna try it again when the weather is nicer...
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This isn't a Gulp! eel. But I thought it was a cool video showing a Storm eel rigged on a type of tin squid. Frankly I don't think it swims as well as the Felmlees on a regular old tin squid, but its still a nice bait. t^
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That 7" looks real nice I might have to get a couple of those in natural and black. I really like that black one.
Ball park figure Bob?
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Cool find! I saw something similar in Grumpy's only it was Gulp not Storm. Same type of setup, pre-rigged and they came 1 or 2 in a package. I love watching product videos of lures and baits showing how they move in the water!!
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That 7" looks real nice I might have to get a couple of those in natural and black. I really like that black one.
Ball park figure Bob?
I think they are around $10. We don't carry them. I think they've been out for a year or so now.
I just finished rigging a couple of 9" Sluggos. I'm going to try them next time I hit the beach (which may be tomorrow). ;D If I could find my camera I'd show them to you. rgmn
I know I'm a little late with throwing these in the salt. They have been very popular in New England for many years and I do know a Jersey guy that has used them with great success on the stripes in the bay. I've used the 4 1/2" and 6" versions rigged Texas and "Texposed" style and have caught quite a few largemouth on them, so I know they work! t^
Anyway, here's what they look like pre-rigged from the manufacturer, Lunker City. These go for about $15. But, I can rig my own for less than $3 per bait! ;)
When I relocate my camera, I'll post a pic of my homemade version.
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Nice setups!! How are you connecting that trailing tail hook??
I want to get some eels/sluggos going and I want to try some BKD's in the surf this season as well!!
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Nice setups!! How are you connecting that trailing tail hook??
I want to get some eels/sluggos going and I want to try some BKD's in the surf this season as well!!
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The rear hook is attached to the front hook with 50# dacron.
As far as eels, I should have some Berkley Powerbait eels to give away at the surf party on the 25th. t^
Here's a pic of the Sluggos I rigged last night. I have a bunch more, in different colors, to do as well.
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I figured that's what you were using. Very nice setups. They look good and hopefully they will produce some nice fish!!
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Thanks. We'll see! ;D
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i have used them in the surf, but very limited. found out how to rig them off of another website. not sure how this site is about linking other sites so i wont unless i hear otherwise. they are very easy to rig and weight. as i heard, the weight is the important part, and from your statement of the 50lb dacron, i believe you saw it on the same website that i did. they cast great and seem to swim well, just havent fished them enough to know how well they will do.
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I actually found this rigging method on You Tube (see below). Although, I have seen other sites that show a much simpler single hook rig. I'm sure that a single hook is sufficient on a 9" bait. But, I felt like playing, so I went with the tandem hook rig. ;)
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Thanks Bucktail!
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Good tutorial, thanks... slt
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cool gotta buy me some of these
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Just rigged one up like that, not bad to do and looks good to me.
Thanks Bob t^
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bought the jar of live gulp 8 inch silver mud eels and the 8 inch sandworms yesterday,this afternoon made up rigs with 3 to 3 1/2 foot leaders 20 lb test for drifting bottom,thought is lighter line more action.plan on next trip to clam in bay,then when it gets dark drift these in the river,river side of the Perth Amboy,South Amboy train Bridge and another thing if you buy live eels at the bait shops it gets kind of expensive if you don't get any action you can't put them back in the jar for next trip.hopefully get to try this monday. Kez
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Sounds like your all set. Good Luck... t^
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Diesel and Keszr,
Don't forget to let us know how you do with your new baits. t^
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Diesel and Keszr,
Don't forget to let us know how you do with your new baits. t^
will do,trying tomorrow evening,leaving home at 2:30 pm to launch at Sayrerville. Kez