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The Surf Fisherman Forum => From The Surf => Topic started by: initial_reefer on March 12, 2012, 09:45:50 PM
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Hello all My Wonderful Girlfriend of 5 years as of tomorrow is buying me a Surf Setup for our anniversary.
my question is this a good reel and rod combo ?
Emblem®-SF Surf EMSF1002MHFS
http://www.daiwa.com/rod/detail.aspx?id=551
Saltist® STT5000H
http://www.daiwa.com/reel/detail.aspx?id=499
This reel looks kinda heavy duty for Jersey coast fishing but I am new and could be wrong
I'm open to any poles with Cork but would like to stick to Diawa or Penn for reels
I have about $500 total to spend
Thanks in advanced
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Im not really a surf guy so take everything i say with a BIG grain of salt lol But with 500 total to spend why not get a custom rod made. Either that or save up for a van staal reel from what i understand every surf guy swears by this being the reel of reels. Also check out st croix rods they have a big line of surf rods i believe and IMO are a better company for rods than daiwa. Again i dont surf fish at all but for a great spinning reel in your price range you really cant beat a shimano baitrunner its just awesome and damn near bulletproof. t^
Good luck with your search im sure all the surf guys will chime in with better info than me lol
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Hello all My Wonderful Girlfriend of 5 years as of tomorrow is buying me a Surf Setup for our anniversary.
my question is this a good reel and rod combo ?
Emblem®-SF Surf EMSF1002MHFS
http://www.daiwa.com/rod/detail.aspx?id=551
Saltist® STT5000H
http://www.daiwa.com/reel/detail.aspx?id=499
This reel looks kinda heavy duty for Jersey coast fishing but I am new and could be wrong
I'm open to any poles with Cork but would like to stick to Diawa or Penn for reels
I have about $500 total to spend
Thanks in advanced
I'd say she is wonderful! You'll get good answers in no time.
Fred
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first of all let me ask where and what youll be using this. Second where do i find a girlfriend that will let me spend 500 on a setup? Chris l and Surfjockey will be able to help but I will suggest the Mojo, the VS reels arw definatley the cadillac for surf fishing but also come with the same price tag. This is why it is important for us to know the application. If your planning on wading in the wash your definatley goi.g to want a sealed reel to keep the sand out. Let us know your plans and Im sure we can point you in the right direction
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Basically I'm looking to tread in the surf mainly PP/Mana/IBSP
I'd say 500 is my max on everything not saying I need to spend $500 but its my max
Also My grandfather made custom poles as I have one but I'm afraid I'm going to break it so I wanna just get something I feel a little better about breaking if something does happen
Thanks,
Gary
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Welcome initial_reefer,
Well surf fishing is a very unique sport. There are a ton of manufactures out there all looking for your money. I have been surf fishing for well over 50 years in the Ocean and Monmouth counties areas. I have used everything from conventional to spinning equipment. I have made tons of mistakes through the years in buying equipment till I learned some very important factors. One, your rod and reel are the most important pieces of equipment you will use. They should be matched as closely as possible. I would pick a reliable shop in the area you will be fishing and allow them to walk you through the buying process.
They will know the type and size of the equipment that works well in that area. Many shops will let you try the equipment out and if it does not feel right for you they will match you to something that works.
Or another option it to do this you could ask questions like you are doing now and will probably get tons of individual advise, some good and some questionable. My preferences will be widely different from even those I have taught the ropes to.
With that much money you will have your choice of some pretty reliable equipment. Will it catch fish well that depends on your skill as a fisherman.
Just to give you some pointers try to match your rod to the reels final set up. By this I mean a reel that is over sized might need a rod that will handle the heavier line there by handling heavier lures or bait set ups.
I have 3 setups I go to for just about every fish that can be caught off our shores, from striped bass, blues, kings, etc. all the way to sharks. My heaviest line is 40# Power Pro braid. Most of my gear is Penn and I like the Tica rods. But than again my pocket book also dictates my equipment.
My reels fall into the category of 300 to 400 type and I have not had a problem with ether size landing fish. As far as rods go 8 to 10 footers are ideal, but check the specs on each rod to make sure it matches up to the style of fishing you will be doing, IE, line weight, lure weight, etc. You will find this info close to the reel seat on the rod.
Good luck in your search, take your time and I am sure your final choice will work just fine.
Happy Catching
Paul
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good info Sir I Imagine this place would suffice
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=PXy&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=1023&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=fisherman+supply&fb=1&gl=us&hq=fisherman+supply&hnear=0x89c15edb424b94bd:0xc6ea38fb5ba838f6,Hamilton+Township,+NJ&cid=7330775722216727320&ei=9rleT5KyNcj10gHW89SVBw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=placepage-link&resnum=2&ved=0CDMQ4gkwAQ
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Yes it would, as would the 2 main B&T's in Seaside Park. Anyone would be fine. Not sure if FS will let you try a rig out but the 2 in SSP I know will.
All 3 are no nonsense shops and you can't go wrong especially if you fish in that area. If you become a regular in any of the shops the info that will flow is priceless.
Happy Catching
Paul
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initial_reefer,
Check your messages.
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Relly like the St. Croix suff thanks
VS stuff is nice too but like you said good things come at a price
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I think the 2 shops south of Sea Side are more in tune to the surf fisherman. If I were looking for some surf stuff, that's where I would go, but hey, I fish off of a boat, so what do I know. TT^
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Yeah, VS's are nice, but I would not recommend shelling out about 700 on a reel for just starting out, unless you surely plan on staying with it. They are amazing reels and will handle more than most reels out there, but unnecessary unless you plan on dunking it and getting it filled up with sand.
If you're bait fishing, I'd say go with a Tica TC2 rod, around 10'-11', and there's plenty of Penn & Shimano reels that would match up nicely for it.
For chucking lures/plugs and such, I'd go with a 9' or 10' St. Croix Mojo and same reel choices as above.
For $500 you could probably score 2 setups, one to handle bait, and one to toss artificials.
Just my $0.02. Good luck with your choice, and let us know what you get!
PS: She's a keeper!
TT^
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I'm liking this anyone use it ?
http://www.boaterbarn.com/daiwa_saltiga_surf_6000_big_41893_prd1.htm?productFeedId=0&utm_source=googleFeed&utm_medium=shoppingEngine&utm_medium=Google
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I'm liking this anyone use it ?
http://www.boaterbarn.com/daiwa_saltiga_surf_6000_big_41893_prd1.htm?productFeedId=0&utm_source=googleFeed&utm_medium=shoppingEngine&utm_medium=Google
I have not used that reel in particular but I have used a lower end Daiwa surf reel with the same style of extended spool (emblem pro I believe.) I am very happy with it.
The other thing I would urge you to consider is what type of fishing you are going to want to do. If slinging bait is your thing, a bigger reel (maybe one with a live bait function) and longer rod (11') with a heavier action will do you well. If plugging is more your speed, a smaller, lighter setup will allow you to work lures all day without your arms wanting to fall off. This is where going to bait shops and just playing with stuff is hard to beat. Fisherman's supply would be a really good place to start.
Good Luck
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so I think I'm going with a ST. Croix mojo 10.6 and a Dawia Daiwa Saltiga Surf 5000 I found used for $225 should be a good plugging rod
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All good choices. Just looked at the specs on the rod. Will you be going with the Medium or Medium Heavy rod?
On the Med the line wt. is 10 - 20# with a lure wt of 3/4 to 4oz.
On the Med Heavy the line wt is 12 to 25 with a lure wt of 2 to 6 oz.
if you will be using this rod for just plugging I would go with the Med. If you will be using it for both plugging and bait go with the Med Heavy.
Boy I hate choices I am glad it is yours to make.
Happy Casting
Paul
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friend of mine said being its 2-6 oz it would only be good for throwing pencil poppers and wood swimmers on the beach in spring and good for nothing else.????
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also the guy sold the reel I was gonna buy =/
hmm we dont have a For sale section do we ?
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I have a 9' Mojo 3/4-4 and it is great for throwing most of my lures.
ChrisL has the 10'6" in the same rating. Maybe he'll chime in.
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I have a tica tc2 in 9 9/6 and 10 foot there all great for casting plugs and or bait from light bombers to a whole clam with 4oz lead, I also have the tc3 dolphin and it works well for both but i use it with a baitrunner
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I have the Mojo 10'6" 3/4-4oz. Great rod. with the right lure, it casts a mile and has plenty of backbone to fight a good fish. Little on the higher end price wise.
I have several Tica TC2 rods and love every one of them. Even better...they are very affordable. Most models run $90-$120. I have a couple 9' for plastic swimmers, bucktails to 2oz, avas to 2oz, poppers, etc. I have an 11' for pencils, metal lip swimmers, bait etc. And I have an 10' 2-6oz for bait. also plan on getting the 8' for smaller swimmers for the bay.
For reels, it depends on where/how you plan to fish. If you are fishing open beaches and wading out, the reel will get splashed, dunked, etc. Most reels can't handle that for long. If those situations a VS, ZB or old Penn 704, 706 is the way to go. The Penns just need regular maintenance, but are very affordable.
If the reel will only get an occasional splash, you have a lot more options. I like the Shimano Stadic, Penn Battle, etc. I've also heard the Quantum Cabos are good.
Of course the VS and ZB are excellent reels, but they are pricey. You will own the reel for life, but I don't recommend it if you are starting out.
In conclusion.... ::) I'd suggest getting two setups to start. One to handle the plastic swimmers and other light lures, a 9' rod w/ 4000 series reel. And the second around 10'-11' to handle pencils, swimmers, etc with a 5000 series reel. Depending on the brands you go with, that is very possible for about $500.
Good luck t^
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t^ t^ Nicely said
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Thanks guys
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anyone have a 706 they are willing to part with ?
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Try the popular auction site. There's usually a few on there. Probably gonna run ya in the area of $175 for a good one.
The 706 will fit nicely on something in the 9ft range.
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the 706 would be ok on the 10.6 also ?
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I agree with everything here chris but let me add my two cents. I have the 8 foot tica you mention. While it is a great loner rod or one to beat the Pee out of on the rocks or at the canal, it is not great for anything less that 3/4 oz. I use a st croix tidemaster 8' med fast action rated 3/8 to 3/4. Best back bay plugging rod I've ever owned. I used this rod last year when the bass were on in the back (you know where I'm talking about) and had no problems landing bass to 38" in strong current but still only throwing small bombers and mambos.
To the OP, go with an old Penn and learn how to tear it down, clean it, and reassemble it. Make sure it says made in the US on it and you are good to go.
I have the Mojo 10'6" 3/4-4oz. Great rod. with the right lure, it casts a mile and has plenty of backbone to fight a good fish. Little on the higher end price wise.
I have several Tica TC2 rods and love every one of them. Even better...they are very affordable. Most models run $90-$120. I have a couple 9' for plastic swimmers, bucktails to 2oz, avas to 2oz, poppers, etc. I have an 11' for pencils, metal lip swimmers, bait etc. And I have an 10' 2-6oz for bait. also plan on getting the 8' for smaller swimmers for the bay.
For reels, it depends on where/how you plan to fish. If you are fishing open beaches and wading out, the reel will get splashed, dunked, etc. Most reels can't handle that for long. If those situations a VS, ZB or old Penn 704, 706 is the way to go. The Penns just need regular maintenance, but are very affordable.
If the reel will only get an occasional splash, you have a lot more options. I like the Shimano Stadic, Penn Battle, etc. I've also heard the Quantum Cabos are good.
Of course the VS and ZB are excellent reels, but they are pricey. You will own the reel for life, but I don't recommend it if you are starting out.
In conclusion.... ::) I'd suggest getting two setups to start. One to handle the plastic swimmers and other light lures, a 9' rod w/ 4000 series reel. And the second around 10'-11' to handle pencils, swimmers, etc with a 5000 series reel. Depending on the brands you go with, that is very possible for about $500.
Good luck t^
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Try the popular auction site.
:headscra: Ebay ;D
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Try the popular auction site.
:headscra: Ebay ;D
Yeah that pawle
The706 might be a little small on a 10.6 rod. The 704 is a great match on most 10-11ft rods. And its cheaper, usually less then $100 on EBAY
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so.. the 706 is a little too small but the 704 is just right? are they not the same body.... sorry I keep asking stupid questions
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I'm not positive about the body size, it might be the same. But the spool ad rotor are larger on the 704z.
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Pretty sure you have that reversed Chris. The 706 was (is) the bigger reel.
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yeah I'm looking at it now the 706 has a bigger rotor same body and same drag system
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Rod is on the way I'm getting the 10.6 2-6 I also found a 706 for $130 I'm gonna pick up
Anyone have a guide to drilling the rotor?
Thnaks again everyone
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I apologize, I had my model numbers mixed up.
The 706 will be fine on a larger rod.
It was the 710 that is more appropriately sized for a 9ft.