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Title: Blackfish Rigs
Post by: rossg on October 06, 2007, 05:53:39 PM
Great site for blackfish rigs
I particularly like the no hardware rig
Lighter line at the sinker for easy sinker breakoff
I know you guys are going to share those blackfish spots off long branch with me
http://home.comcast.net/~sannermc/togrigs/blackfishrigs02.htm
Title: Re: Get ready-Great Blackfish Rigs
Post by: The Broken One on October 06, 2007, 06:04:22 PM
My opinion... and its just that.... keep it simple....lose the hardware like barrel swivels, 3 way swivels, clips, etc..... Sinker sliders aka fish finders --- around here instant snag and loose.....

Title: Re: Get ready-Great Blackfish Rigs
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on October 07, 2007, 02:24:18 PM
I agree with Bobber... keep it simple..  more toys on your rig means more things to get caught on the bottom with.
Title: Re: Get ready-Great Blackfish Rigs
Post by: Hotrod on October 07, 2007, 06:27:19 PM
Nice post Bobber.  Thank You!
Title: Re: Get ready-Great Blackfish Rigs
Post by: gottog on October 08, 2007, 02:51:23 PM
No hardware TT^

There's also the power of the snafu:
Title: Re: Get ready-Great Blackfish Rigs
Post by: The Broken One on October 08, 2007, 10:40:11 PM
No hardware TT^

There's also the power of the snafu:


I feeeeeel the Power........
Title: Re: Get ready-Great Blackfish Rigs
Post by: Capt. Mike on October 08, 2007, 11:38:49 PM
Hey Gottog,

Is that dropper loop for weight? How do you attach that rig to main line?
 ???
Title: Re: Get ready-Great Blackfish Rigs
Post by: gottog on October 09, 2007, 03:04:34 PM
I fish Fireline on my tog setups.  30#FL attached to 30-60#mono leader via a connection knot.  Long leader, atleast 15', basically a "shock leader" length of mono. I like having enough mono as a top shot that will have a few turns around the reel spool.

The long leader gives you better abrasion resistance as braid/fireline gets cut very easily when taunt and against something sharp.  Since I fish party boats more often than not, it also makes getting out of tangles much easier.  Gives you a little cushion of stretch and makes rerigging easier.  With the mono leader on the spool, I also feel much more confident on swinging fish up and over the rail.

At the end of my mono leader I make a loop.  Spider hitch, perfection loop, whatever.  Basically want a loop that's about 8-10" long.  Sinker goes on that and then above it you fold/pinch the line to make a loop which goes into the loop on the snafu rig.  Hooks get pulled thru that loop and pull tight.  Then take sinker and make an overhand knot over that loop. ???

Tough to explain, but easy to do once you see it.

Other way is to just make a dropper loop above the sinker loop in your leader and then do a dropper to dropper connection with the snafu.

Intended to fish whole crabs but can also serve as a two-hook rig for individual baits.


Some other pics and rigs:
Title: Re: Get ready-Great Blackfish Rigs
Post by: IrishAyes on October 09, 2007, 04:15:37 PM
Gottog,
I had a mate on a party boat show me that set up last year.  The one with the sinker at the end, loop in the line, rig thru the loop and overhand knot with the sinker end.  Can't for the life of me figure out how it works and stays put, but it does.  And you are right, hard to explain but easy to tie once you are shown.
Title: Re: Get ready-Great Blackfish Rigs
Post by: gottog on October 09, 2007, 05:01:51 PM
I did a step by step description with pics last year or so on another site.  Gotta see where the pics are as they're not on this one at work 5hrug

I used to just make the loop for the sinker and then the dropper above it to attach the rig.  It works, but the way were talking about seems to work better at pulling a fish out when hung up.

If you thought my explanation was confusing, you should see me try to explain the way I tie a quick-snell :o
Title: Re: Get ready-Great Blackfish Rigs
Post by: IrishAyes on October 09, 2007, 05:08:16 PM
GOTTOG: If you thought my explanation was confusing, you should see me try to explain the way I tie a quick-snell

Go for it.  Always willing to learn a different way of doing things.   TT^
Title: Re: Get ready-Great Blackfish Rigs
Post by: gottog on October 09, 2007, 05:17:47 PM
Basically run the leader/line thru the eye towards the point.  Loop the line against the shank and start wrapping around the shank back towards the eye.  Lighter leader gets 7-10 wraps, heavier leader only needs 3.  While wrapping you need to hold that loop you first created and then just pass the tag end thru the loop and tighten.

It basically has the snell on the outside of the knot, but never experienced any slip or pop off from abrasion(or even yellow-eyed demons)  Have used it from tog to tuna.  Even have straightened out 4/0 Gami Octs with it.
Title: Re: Blackfish Rigs
Post by: Hunter 2 on December 12, 2016, 12:10:00 PM
Thanks for the info