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Offline Matt C

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New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« on: June 09, 2009, 10:37:21 PM »
New to this forum as well  chrz

First off, this site is great I got a lot of good info from you guys so thanks for that. I've been freshwater guy all my life, and recently got the itch to give saltwater a chance. I got the idea after discussing how NJ's freshwater fishing is compared to other states in the US. Then it hit me that NJ has great saltwater fishing, and I should take advantage of it. I've been on a couple party boats so I have little knowledge, but there's still a few things I would like to get a better idea about.

I took my first trip on Sunday. Me and my friend got a couple of clams and headed to spring lake. I had a 7 ft ugly-stick bigwater I used that with a reel saltwater reel I bought that day. The trip went well, considering it was my first outing. Hooked into 2 fish, lost one. I also learned my first lesson...Buy a sand spike  nosmly nosmly In case you havn't guessed each time a fish hit, my rod would fall down and slowly start heading towards the surf.  hhppy

Did get my first striper though, we had no scale, but I think this little guy was about 3-4 pounds. Small but still really fun to catch.
He was also tagged, and I'm not  sure what that means, but he was safely released.




Now to my questions.

1. I've read a little about fishing the tides, and I'm wondering if theres a general rule of thumb when it comes to this.

2. How is the fishing in June. I've read about how great NJ is in the spring and fall. But what about this time of the year, is this still considered the spring season.

3. I really want to do a night trip. Is there any places besides IBSP to do this? If not how would a trip to IBSP if you don't have a car for the beach? would it be possible to park, and walk awhile to a nice secluded spot?

Thats pretty much it for now, i'm sure i'll have plenty more in the future ;D Sorry for making such a long post, but any help would be great.


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Re: New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2009, 11:16:17 PM »
First welcome aboard MarkC,

You have picked one of what I think is the most exciting fishing opportunities out there.  I know others will argue but I find it fascinating to be able to catch just about every fish the guys in the boats can just by walking the beach.

Your journey has a good start and I congratulate you on your first striped bass, people starting out would kill to be in your shoes.  Your pole is a little small but for now it will be your outfit you will break into this sport with so lets concentrate on it for a moment.  If you look at the rod close to the reel you will see what the rod can handle.  It probably is something like a med. fast rod rated up to some where close to 1 1/2 oz lure wt and 20# line wt. you should try to stay with these weights or below as they are the parameters of what the pole can handle.

Many people have their own preference in the tides as some like the incoming and some swear the outgoing is much better. Right now I would not worry about that as much as just getting out there as both will catch fish.  If you are targeting only one tide you could be missing out on some great fishing.

Fishing in June is great as there are plenty of different species around to target for instance I would fish the predawn and the dusk times for stripers as they are primarily nocturnal and off the beach they let their guard down a little and are more vulnerable.  If you can only get out during the day I would target blues.

If you can get to the rocks like in Lavellette or the inlets fish in close for sea bass, tog, and as well the striped bass.  Just make sure everything is in season.  Start by fishing the north side of the rocks as this is the deepest side most of the time caused by the wave action.

Night trips are a outings not to be missed.  You should be able to fish just about anywhere in NJ at night as just about all the beaches are open to fishing when the lifeguards are not around.  Watch our site as we have a number of outings at night during the summer for shark.

As far as IBSP, that has to be one of the key areas to fish for anything that swims.  If you do not have a vehicle for the beach just tell them at the guard shack that you are fishing and you will pay your 5 bucks and make your way to any of the parking lots (there are a ton of them, just ask for a map of the park).  Each parking lot will have an access path to the beach some longer than others.  I would suggest doing this in the daytime to get a feel of the place.  If you want a good place to start go the parking area A7 and park then take the small board walk out to the beach from there you can walk to the waters edge easily.

Learn to read the water to see where the cuts and troughs are and fish them hard.  The bait of choice for beginners would be clams or cut bunker. My advice would be to get known at any of the great bait & tackle shops as their inside information is priceless.

I hope this helps for starters.  Just be patient and above all have fun.

Happy Catching and again welcome aboard.

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Re: New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 06:12:19 AM »
Welcome aboard Matt.  Nice report. and Nice Fist Striper.

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Re: New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 06:15:47 AM »
welcome
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Re: New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 06:41:27 AM »
Welcome Aboard!  grtn
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Re: New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 07:34:33 AM »
Wecome abord, your about as hooked as that short striper in your picture,  now the fun starts.  Good luck out there and we look foward to reading reports of you slamming all the great species we get here. 

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Re: New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2009, 08:16:00 AM »
Welcome MarkC! ;D

1. I've read a little about fishing the tides, and I'm wondering if theres a general rule of thumb when it comes to this.

From the surf, most folks, generally, like to fish either side of high tide.  However, some of the best fishing occurs at low tide.  Also, it is much easier to find the holes then.

2. How is the fishing in June. I've read about how great NJ is in the spring and fall. But what about this time of the year, is this still considered the spring season.

Yes.  This is still considered the spring season.

3. I really want to do a night trip. Is there any places besides IBSP to do this? If not how would a trip to IBSP if you don't have a car for the beach? would it be possible to park, and walk awhile to a nice secluded spot?

As Paul said, most all beaches in NJ are open at night for fishing.

Good Luck! t^




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Re: New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2009, 10:01:49 AM »
thanks again for all the help guys, looks like I'll be night fishing this weekend.  t^

About my rod, I was thinking of getting something bigger so I can throw heavier weights without a problem. I have a 5000 captiva right now strung up with 14lb mono, I think I'm going to re-string it with 20.

Would that reel still be fine, if paired up with a bigger rod? I have a small car, so 1-pieces are out of the questions, I was thinking about just getting a 2 piece 10 ft ugly stick. Would that be a good beginner combo?

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Re: New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2009, 10:11:04 AM »
It might be a little small but for now go with it.  Don't for get to check out the Tica rods as well as they are a good value for their price range.  A Tica in a good size will be less than $100 dollars.  Look at the 8 - 9' rods and you should be good with that reel with 20# braid on it.  The reason for braid is that you will not sacrifice the length of line you are putting on the reel and at the same time increasing the line wt.

Good luck

Happy Catching

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Re: New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2009, 10:54:27 PM »
Welcome!

Saltwater fishing isn't all that different from freshwater.  The principles are the same and just go to your basics of fishing and you will do fine.  Only difference in saltwater fishing is tides, different bait fish(although the same basic ideas), beach structure and slightly different gear.

The best thing you can learn is reading the sand and water.  Structure is the key to finding fish...just like in freshwater.  If you know where to target them, half the battle is won.

The setup you are using will work just fine.  If you decide to buy something, look in the 9-11 foot range.  If you are just going to bait fish, you will want something that can handle a little heavier weight than if you are lure fishing.  If you are doing both, look for a rod with the widest abilities.  30lb braid will do the job for line.

Be safe out there too.  Good luck!

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Re: New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2009, 10:48:44 AM »
Welcome aboard Matt!

Great info as always Paul  t^

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Re: New to saltwater, got a few questions.
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2009, 11:26:49 AM »
Welcome  grtn

 

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