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Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« on: March 10, 2010, 11:10:57 AM »
..Fishermen’s fear: Public's 'right to fish' shifting under Obama?
        
Atlanta – The Obama administration has proposed using United Nations-guided principles to expand a type of zoning to coastal and even some inland waters. That’s raising concerns among fishermen that their favorite fishing holes may soon be off-limits for bait-casting. In the battle of incremental change that epitomizes the American conservation movement, many weekend anglers fear that the Obama administration’s promise to “fundamentally change” water management in the US will erode what they call the public’s “right to fish,” in turn creating economic losses for the $82 billion recreational fishing industry and a further deterioration of the American outdoorsman’s legacy. Proponents say the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force established by President Obama last June will ultimately benefit the fishing public by managing ecosystems in their entirety rather than by individual uses such as fishing, shipping, or oil exploration. “It’s not an environmentalist manifesto,” says Larry Crowder, a marine biologist at Duke University in North Carolina. “It’s multiple-use planning for the environment, and making sure various uses … are sustainable.” (Amateur outdoorsmen have been fighting for their rights for years, as the Monitor reports here.)

New way to manage marine resourcesFaced with the prospect of further industrialization along America's coasts and the Great Lakes (wind turbines and natural-gas exploration, for example), the task force is charged with putting in place a new ecosystem management process called marine spatial planning. Marine spatial planning (MSP), according to the United Nations, is “a public process of analyzing and allocating the spatial and temporal distribution of human activities in marine areas to achieve ecological, economic, and social objectives that usually have been specified through a political process." That kind of government-speak scares Phil Morlock, director of environmental affairs at the reel-and-rod maker Shimano. Mr. Morlock points to references by the ocean task force to “one global sea” as evidence that what’s really being proposed are broad changes to America's user-funded conservation strategy, potentially affecting even inland waters. “I suggest that the task force recommend our model to the United Nations rather than us adopting the United Nations model,” he says in a phone interview. “The American model is the best in the world, so our question is: Why seek the lowest common denominator?”

Protections for recreational fishermenMr. Obama has said he will not override protections put in place by Presidents Clinton and Bush that established recreational fishermen as a special class.

But critics still worry about the Obama administration’s ties to environmental groups that espouse “anti-use” policies that put some habitats out of reach even for rod and reel fishermen, who take only 3 percent of America’s landed catch every year. “Angling advocates point out that senior policy officials on the task force seem inclined to ally themselves with preservationists and environmental extremists who want to create ‘no fishing’ preserves, with no scientific justification,” writes ESPN.com’s Robert Montgomery. On the other hand, nonpartisan experts say the task force has already made strides in better recognizing various stakeholder groups, including recreational fishermen, and that it doesn’t intend to undermine the ability of states to manage their natural resources, as many fishermen fear. “There’s been huge progress by the task force in terms of being more inclusive in thinking about economic, ecological, social, and political concerns,” says Mr. Crowder at Duke. “The paranoia – and there is paranoia on all sides – is that the process will be captured. My hope is that mutual concern gets people to the table.” The final report of the task force is expected in late March. Congress will decide its fate, unless Obama issues an executive order establishing MSP as the law of the water.
  nts nosmly :headscra: >:D

.When are ppl going to wake up and say to Hell with these F#$%%^$# politicians and start governing ourselves.This is the kind of government our FOREFATHERS tried to Protect us from!
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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 07:03:12 PM »
Sorry, I didn't mean to ramble on but this issue really has me wondering. Also don;t mind the extra issues in the top, I'm really kinda new at this cut and paste thing.   lol


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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 07:05:30 PM »
No problem. t^

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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 07:33:18 PM »
Dressed up the top part of your post for ya.

These people are getting out of hand with these regs and their ideas of what is right for us. It will come back to bite them in the azz.
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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 07:16:15 PM »
Thanks Irish lmao chrz

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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2010, 11:06:32 PM »
What will happen if President Obama does not sign an executive order? Will that mean he is much more cleaver than thought and and has some real big tricks up his sleave?  What if the quoted OP Ed was jus some ramblings of a paranoid writer and the real goal of the task force was to try and prevent future user group conflicts?
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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2010, 01:15:02 PM »
yes he is very cleaver

chop chop here- there go your rights
chop chop there- no more fishing

here a chop there a chop evrywhere a chop chop



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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 01:24:32 PM »
whats a joke is the fact our economy is getting worst so lets ignore the fact the government is ignoring a 82 billion dollar taxable revenue source.

we will be bankrupted by the end of his term..



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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 03:42:25 PM »
whats a joke is the fact our economy is getting worst so lets ignore the fact the government is ignoring a 82 billion dollar taxable revenue source.

we will be bankrupted by the end of his term..




Can you please provide me a link to your souce of info that the economy is getting "worst" or shrinking? According to all leading indicaters the ecnonomy has been growing and net worth is up from  its lows. Things took a long time to get this bad and will take  time to recover. The fact is  this recession started in 2007. No spin just a fact.


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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2010, 04:21:36 PM »
No source look around .. more n more people are on umemployment.. its pretty easier to see things arent getting better.. Look in your own neighbor see how many homes are up for sale.. If you believe this government ...things are improving.. rofla

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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 07:30:29 PM »
Joey. I think your a couple years behind ;D t^



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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2010, 07:57:51 PM »
 OK,OK,OK, your first three words explain alot, "The Obama administration".  nts <'((((><
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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2010, 09:54:12 PM »
 nts Well I guess washington is the only place thats getting better cause it sure not in my world  thud :headscra:

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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2010, 10:31:37 PM »
Hang in there better days are coming. S&P is up 60percent off it's lows Dow is up huge off it's lows biege book shows growth  Just like all the past recessions this one did not happen over night and the recovery is not going to happen over night. The one major differnce with this one is that our economy is now driven by consumer spending and not industral manufacturing. In the past the economy could build it's way to recovery. Now when consumer confidence is low it becomes a self fullfilling prothecy less spending because it may get worst. Kind of like no engine in a car. Looks like the dollar will continues to strengthen after a disasterous last 8 years. This may because of the US is still a good bet or because of US policy change( really open for debate) The facts point that we are in much better shape economy wise than 18 months ago. I sure does not make it hurt any less .  Growth will be slow but it will be growth. Companies will get orders and people will get rehired. Our homes may not be viewed as ATMs this time and we may not expect thier value to double every  3 years. Good luck to all in these difficult times and hang in there

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Re: Public's' Right to Fish' shifting under Obama?
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2010, 11:10:06 PM »
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