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Offline bassnblues

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Not good news
« on: April 24, 2009, 11:59:56 AM »
Will we get the shaft on stripers like we do with fluke??

Stripers Forever Members – we recently received the latest figures for the National Marine Fishery Service, Marine Recreational Fishing Survey - MRFS.  From their website we were able to get the data for the recreational catch of striped bass from 1995 through 2008.  The number of fish caught by recreational anglers peaked in 2006.  This includes both harvested and live release.  Since that time it has dropped by approximately 50%.  The catch in 2008 was the lowest since 1996. This trend is in line with  the results of our annual fishing survey in the past few years.


These statistics may well be harbingers of real danger for striped bass  First and most important, fishing may simply continue to go downhill and the stock will collapse.  It could happen, and this would have disastrous consequences for the 3,000,000 plus recreational anglers who avidly pursue striped bass.  In addition, the livelihoods of thousands of guides and various other recreational fishing industry workers will be at stake.  The commercially-oriented fishery managers can maneuver the commercial fishermen into a much bigger share of the fishery than they’ve had historically, as they have with the fluke fishery; essentially this will choke off recreational fishing opportunities and impact participation in the sport of recreational fishing. 


There is only one answer.  Striped bass must be made a game fish and managed for the more socially and economically valuable recreational fishery.   


To see the table and graph that we have created with the MRFS data, follow this LINK to the SF website.


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Re: Not good news
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2009, 01:00:47 PM »
If the catch declines, they say it is because there are not a lot of fish around. So they lower the limit.

If the catch increases, they say you are catching too many and it will make for not a lot of fish around. So they lower the limit.

It does not matter what you do, it is never the right thing.

It has been my expecience that statisticians can make numbers say anything they want then to say.  :P
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Re: Not good news
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2009, 01:50:12 PM »
If the catch declines, they say it is because there are not a lot of fish around. So they lower the limit.

If the catch increases, they say you are catching too many and it will make for not a lot of fish around. So they lower the limit.

It does not matter what you do, it is never the right thing.
AMEN to that Brother slt

It has been my expecience that statisticians can make numbers say anything they want then to say.  :P
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Re: Not good news
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2009, 01:51:31 PM »

It has been my expecience that statisticians can make numbers say anything they want then to say.  :P

As said by Ben Franklin "There are 3 kinds of lies; lies, damned lies and statistics"


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Re: Not good news
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2009, 02:43:46 PM »
Bassnblues, I just want to make it clear that in no way am I saying what Stripers Forever is doing is wrong or inaccurate. I commend the group for the activities that they are involved in.  t^

It is just that the powers to be will translate any information they get to make it fit their agenda.

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Re: Not good news
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2009, 02:47:34 PM »
You can't win anymore 5hrug.

It has been my expecience that statisticians can make numbers say anything they want then to say.  :P

As said by Ben Franklin "There are 3 kinds of lies; lies, damned lies and statistics"

Statistics can work both ways, it all depends how they are presented.  Of course, a good statistician never tells his margin of error either.  At best, there is only a 98% accuracy.  Most of the time it is closer to 90%...

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Re: Not good news
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2009, 02:56:45 PM »
 whs

I wrote a paper in school that "proved" pizza cured cancer with statistics...


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Re: Not good news
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2009, 04:25:00 PM »
That's a fact . Tomatoe sauce is high in anti-oxidents and does help prevent cancer  t^ and beer is made from whole grains like hops and barley so..... chrz  chrz

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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2009, 05:50:58 PM »
I guess this means I'll live to 100... chrz


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Re: Not good news
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2009, 10:29:43 PM »
I think it is kind of funny how the statistics say that the striper fishery is possibly in trouble.  So far, the spring fishery seems to be really good.  20+ fish being caught and released by several people out fishing ???.  I am not disputing Stripers Forever and I agree with their mission and stand...I know a lot of their stats are more surveys that they did last fall or winter.  The Fall Run was nothing to write about and was certainly sub par from what I remember.  Maybe they need to do another survey at the end of the spring/summer season and see if it improves at all 5hrug?  Either way, I certainly agree with their cause!

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