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Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« on: November 25, 2009, 10:18:32 AM »
You have got to be F'n kidding me....if this is the point we have reached....why not just totally dismantle the military?  nosmly

SEALs charged in alleged assault of detainee

By Gidget Fuentes - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Nov 24, 2009 17:41:46 EST

SAN DIEGO — Three Navy SEALs are facing court-martial for allegedly assaulting and mishandling a detainee they captured in Iraq in September, military officials said.

The three SEALs — Special Warfare Operators 2nd Class Matthew McCabe and Jonathan Keefe, and SO1 Julio Huertas — will be arraigned Dec. 7 in a military court in Norfolk, Va., said Army Lt. Col. Holly Silkman, a spokeswoman with U.S. Special Operations Command Central.

McCabe is charged with one count each of assault of the detainee, dereliction of duty and making a false official statement, Silkman said. Officials accuse McCabe of “willfully failing to safeguard a detainee,” Silkman said.

Keefe is charge with one count each of dereliction of duty and false official statement; Huertas is accused of dereliction of duty, false official statement and impeding an investigation, she said.

Army Maj. Gen. Charles Cleveland, SOCCent commander, preferred the charges against the SEALs and will serve as the convening authority as the cases proceed to court-martial, tentatively scheduled for mid-January, Silkman said.

None of the SEALs is confined, she added.

The alleged incident happened in Iraq on or about Sept. 1, Silkman said. “The one thing I can’t talk about is this alleged victim,” she said.

No other details about the alleged incident were immediately available.

The SEALs have been assigned military attorneys to defend them in the cases, which will be tried separately as special courts-martial.

One defense attorney said they had refused to accept nonjudicial punishment, administrative actions that some in the military may consider as a admission of guilt.

Neal Puckett, a defense attorney who is representing McCabe, said the SEALs are being essentially charged for allegedly giving the detainee “a punch in the gut.”

They are expected to plead not guilty when they appear at their arraignment. “They are all together and they all maintain that they are innocent of these charges,” said Puckett, a retired Marine Corps lieutenant colonel and judge advocate.

The SEALs were on the tail-end of their deployment to Iraq when the alleged incident happened, he said.

Puckett offered no details about the alleged incident, but said that “in a combat environment, the handling of a detainee … these things happen all the time and can easily be justified as maintaining [control of] a detainee.”

McCabe’s special court-martial is slated to begin Jan. 19, he said.

Huertas, 28, is originally from Blue Island, Ill., and enlisted in 1999. He has served in special warfare units since 2002. He has an Iraq Campaign Medal and was advanced in June 2006, Navy records show.

McCabe, 24 is originally from Perrysburg, Ohio, and enlisted in 2003. He served on the Amphibious Assault Ship Belleau Wood before training in special warfare. He was advanced in September 2007, Navy records show.

Keefe, 25, is originally from Yorktown, Va., and enlisted in 2006. He began SEAL training the same year, Navy records show. He was last advanced in June 2008.

Cmdr. Greg Geisen, a Naval Special Warfare Command spokesman in Coronado, Calif., referred all questions about the charges to SOCCent.

The charges were first reported by Fox News, which posted a story on its Web site Tuesday, saying the charges surround the SEALs’ handling of Ahmed Hashim Abed, who is believed to be connected to the 2004 slaying of four U.S. security contractors in Fallujah.
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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2009, 11:25:24 AM »
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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2009, 12:59:18 PM »
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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2009, 02:56:50 PM »
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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009, 04:07:58 PM »
Poor guy! Bloody nose my god! How cruel can we be? Enought of this dam nonsense! Lets take the gloves off and do it right!  >:D

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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2009, 04:21:04 PM »
Kick ass, take names, let God sort it out.  TT^
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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2009, 09:54:10 PM »
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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2009, 09:24:37 AM »
 5hrug nosmly >:(

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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2009, 10:06:25 AM »
I don't quite understand this!  We specially train men and women to fight and kill people for war and then they bloody a prisoner's nose and their lives are going to be ruined for that.  I don't think they should be able to "torture" a prisoner, but over a bloody nose.  I guess next time, they should just pull the trigger 5hrug.

If we don't want the negativity that accompanies war, then I guess we should stay home and mind our own business.  Sending the military into a country is not glamorous and has its downfalls.  Unfortunately, these soldiers are just political scape goats.  ...And they wonder why enlisting is down in the US.  Who wants to fight and die for a government that has no back bone to stand behind you!

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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2009, 10:26:46 AM »
Lets have a change of venue and have the case heard in Manhatten on Sept. 11 th. and see what the jury says
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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2009, 10:30:55 AM »
 whs this is beginning to boulder on the ridiculous.
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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2009, 11:24:46 AM »
 >:( This is really getting to the point of too much PC even in the military. These guys are in a combat theater!!!
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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2009, 11:32:15 AM »
These men should be given medals and a months leave, instead they have to defend their actions in capturing a terrorist who killed numerous Americans. This will really make our men and women want to put thier lives on the line if our own government does this.

The people who should be on trial are the ones who brought the charges up on these heros.

Let us see the prisoners terrorists take get their heads cut off, the prisoners we take get a bloody nose.

Just goes to show you, walk up to the terrorist, put your gun to his/her head and blow their Damn Brains out, period.

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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 06:35:17 AM »
No wonder the terrorist are so bold. They don't even have to fight. Instead of suicide bombers get volunteers to get captured complain about treatment and it takes 3 or 4 guys out of combat.
Enough of this BS!  >:D

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Re: Navy Seals face charges....gave prisoner bloody nose
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2009, 06:48:15 AM »
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