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Offline Section32

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Can anyone identify this fish???
« on: July 28, 2009, 08:18:06 PM »
My son and I caught this while seining this past weekend in Silver Bay.

It appears to be some sort of Jack that I am having trouble identifying.
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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 08:24:34 PM »
Very Cool t^




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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2009, 08:40:31 PM »
Kinda looks like a butterfish.   5hrug

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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2009, 08:41:41 PM »
Nice answer Rod......It's a Very Nice Fish
Are they related to the Nothing Fish TRSteve got a couple weeks ago?
What's the daily limit on them?


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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2009, 08:50:48 PM »
I would guess a small Black Drum or a Croaker You could always email it to NJ division fish and game.
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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2009, 08:52:51 PM »
Eng come on man you know the nothing fish is more transparent and see thru, almost invisible.

Didn't think I would see it huh? lol

Thanks made my night! Having a rough one tonight, the alcohol is flowing!!!!

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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2009, 09:02:45 PM »
Not quite sure but it looks like a banded rudderfish to me.

http://www.safmc.net/FishIDandRegs/FishGallery/BandedRudderfish/tabid/264/Default.aspx


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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2009, 09:04:12 PM »
Its very rare and worth over a million dollars if kept alive. TT^

    

 Just kidding,,  As Bucktail said, It does look like a butterfish but they do not have stripes.  Or do they? :-\ :P
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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2009, 09:34:54 PM »
Went on the site Capt Dave posted up and it looks pretty close.


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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2009, 09:51:20 PM »
I say you nailed it Capt Dave. t^


Banded Rudderfish

Seriola zonata

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SAFMC
Physical description:

Similar to greater amberjack.
Biological description:

Similar to greater amberjack.
South Atlantic Federal Regulations

(For areas three-200 miles off the coasts of NC, SC, GA, and East Florida)
Commercial:

    * Limited access permit required.
    * Must be landed with heads and fins intact.
    * Gear restrictions apply.

Recreational:

    * Must be landed with heads and fins intact.
    * Recreational retention limits apply.
    * Gear restrictions apply.



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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2009, 10:00:16 PM »
Maybe...
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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2009, 10:12:50 PM »
definitely not a butterfish, nor is it even remotely close to a black drum or croaker.

Banded rudderfish is the closest thus far, but I am almost certain that this is some type of jack.

I have a few guesses.....
Horse-eye jack?
Yellow Jack?
Bar Jack?

I think I am leaning towards a Blue Runner which is sometimes also known as "Hardtail"
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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2009, 10:21:55 PM »
That's what I definitely think it is after I just found this under Blue Runner
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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2009, 12:14:46 AM »
My guess is a Horse-Eye Jack
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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2009, 07:38:06 AM »
i have used the blue runners as bait and i dont think its a blue runner....unless its a juvenille
blue runner, the ones i have used never had the vertical stripes.  definately in the jack family tho.
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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2009, 02:13:38 PM »
Definitely NOT a rudderfish, its some kind of jack like a horse-eye in its infancy. 




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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2009, 04:20:40 PM »
I Agree.. Not a rudder fish  ;D   thud



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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2009, 04:41:18 PM »
All those for an Horse-Eye Jack raise their hands... grtn
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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2009, 05:08:51 PM »
hmmmm.....hard to tell....those stripes have me boggled....that could be from the fish being dead tho ( im assuming it is because the gills and mouth are in the same position in every pic)
its close so i have to go with it....juvenile horse eyed jack!
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Re: Can anyone identify this fish???
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2009, 05:59:05 PM »
Sent the link to NJF&W  t^  Get your bets in now  ;D




 

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