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SEIZE BP NOW!
« on: June 05, 2010, 05:50:34 PM »
Seize BP: Campaign Statement and Petition

The government of the United States must seize BP and freeze its assets, and place those funds in trust to begin providing immediate relief to the working people throughout the Gulf states whose jobs, communities, homes and businesses are being harmed or destroyed by the criminally negligent actions of the CEO, Board of Directors and senior management of BP.

Take action now!  Sign the Seize BP petition to demand the seizure of BP!

200,000 gallons of oil a day, or more, are gushing into the Gulf of Mexico with the flow of oil growing. The poisonous devastation to human beings, wildlife, natural habitat and fragile ecosystems will go on for decades. It constitutes an act of environmental violence, the consequences of which will be catastrophic.

BP's Unmitigated Greed


This was a manufactured disaster. It was neither an “Act of God” nor Nature that caused this devastation, but rather the unmitigated greed of Big Oil’s most powerful executives in their reckless search for ever-greater profits.

Under BP’s CEO Tony Hayward’s aggressive leadership, BP made a record $5.6 billion in pure profits just in the first three months of 2010. BP made $163 billion in profits from 2001-09. It has a long history of safety violations and slap-on-the-wrist fines.

BP's Materially False and Misleading Statements

BP filed a 52-page exploration plan and environmental impact analysis with the U.S. Department of the Interior’s Minerals Management Service for the Deepwater Horizon well, dated February 2009, which repeatedly assured the government that it was "unlikely that an accidental surface or subsurface oil spill would occur from the proposed activities." In the filing, BP stated over and over that it was unlikely for an accident to occur that would lead to a giant crude oil spill causing serious damage to beaches, mammals and fisheries and that as such it did not require a response plan for such an event.

BP’s executives are thus either guilty of making materially false statements to the government to obtain the license, of consciously misleading a government that was all too ready to be misled, and/or they are guilty of criminal negligence. At a bare minimum, their representations constitute gross negligence. Whichever the case, BP must be held accountable for its criminal actions that have harmed so many.

Protecting BP's Super-Profits

BP executives are banking that they can ride out the storm of bad publicity and still come out far ahead in terms of the billions in profit that BP will pocket. In 1990, in response to the Exxon Valdez disaster, Congress passed and President Bush signed into law the Oil Pollution Act, which immunizes oil companies for the damages they cause beyond immediate cleanup costs.

Under the Oil Pollution Act, oil companies are responsible for oil removal and cleanup costs for massive spills, and their liability for all other forms of damages is capped at $75 million—a pittance for a company that made $5.6 billion in profits in just the last three months, and is expected to make $23 billion in pure profit this year. Some in Congress suggest the cap should be set at $10 billion, still less than the potential cost of this devastation—but why should the oil companies have any immunity from responsibility for the damage they cause?

The Oil Pollution Act is an outrage, and it will be used by BP to keep on doing business as usual.

People are up in arms because thousands of workers who have lost their jobs and livelihoods as a result of BP’s actions have to wait in line to compete for lower wage and hazardous clean-up jobs from BP. BP’s multi-millionaire executives are not asked to sacrifice one penny while working people have to plead for clean-up jobs.

Take Action Now

It is imperative that the government seize BP’s assets now for their criminal negligence and begin providing immediate relief for the immense suffering and harm they have caused.

http://www.seizebp.org/


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Re: SEIZE BP NOW!
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2010, 09:09:17 PM »
10 Critical Facts about BP and the Gulf of Mexico Crisis

   1. On May 10, BP said it had already spent $350 million as a result of the Deepwater Horizon accident.
       
   2. By contrast, in the first three months of this year, BP made $93 million per day in pure profits. This does not include the huge salaries and perks of its executives that are considered “costs,” not profits. Thus, BP has spent what might seem to many people to be a big number on the accident ($350 million) but it is only equivalent to 4 days of pure profits for BP.
       
   3. BP has a market value (BP’s assets) of $152.6 billion.
       
   4. So far, BP has only paid 295 claims out of the 4,700 claims made against the company for damages and losses incurred from the Deepwater accident.
       
   5. JP Morgan Chase Bank owns almost 30 percent of BP’s common stock.
       
   6. BP is the largest producer of offshore oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
       
   7. Citigroup analysts have formally advised investors not to worry too much about “the likely costs to the company [BP].” The Citigroup analysis notes that punitive damages against Exxon for the Exxon-Valedz oil spill in 1989 were originally set by the courts at $5 billion but reduced by 90 percent when the case reached the Supreme Court in 2008. The total cost to Exxon was $500 million in compensation damages and $500 million in punitive damages. The total cost imposed on Exxon after 20 years of litigation amounted to only $1 billion, or the equivalent of just 12 days worth of BP’s pure profits ($93 million per day) in the first three months of this year. Because of the Oil Pollution Act of 1990, BP and any other oil company that is responsible for an offshore oil accident is not legally required to pay more than $75 million in damages above the oil recovery costs. Thus, the government’s response to the Exxon Valdez accident was to actually protect the Oil Giants by limiting their liability and risk exposure in the event of a catastrophic accident. Again, the $75 million limit is less than 1 day of BP’s pure profits in 2010.
       
   8. BP is using carefully crafted language to imply that it may cover all the “legitimate” costs and “legitimate” damages (and they would presumably be the entity to determine which claim is legitimate) and that this amount will surpass the damage cap of $75 million set by the Oil Pollution Act.  States BP’s executive vice president David Nagel, “A $75 million liability is not where our head is at this moment.” The most important three words of Nagel’s quote is “at this moment.” The law, as written, entitles BP’s executives to be the deciders of whether to pay or not to pay any damages above the $75 million cap. Right now the company is under the glare of global publicity and it can say whatever it wants to suggest that it is taking full responsibility.
       
   9. BP has a long history of safety violations and reckless behavior. They chose not to equip Deepwater Horizon with an acoustic trigger, a last-resort option that could have been activated from a remote location triggering the well to shut down even if it was damaged badly. This piece of equipment is required in several countries, but not in the United States. Though BP does employ them on their rigs offshore in England, they choose not to in the Gulf of Mexico. This piece of equipment costs $500,000 – an amount they make in pure profits in less than 8 minutes (based on 2010 earnings). BP also chose not to install a deep-water valve, which could have served as another last-resort option for cutoff. BP has been fined many times by the Occupations Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), and is the recipient of their largest fine ever. OSHA Deputy Assistant Secretary of Labor Jordan Barab has this to say about BP: “BP has systemic safety and health problems.”
       
  10. Unless there is an asset seizure and the placement of those funds in a trust to provide for full compensation and relief for the harmed people and the damaged environment, BP and its  executives will avoid real responsibility to remedy the suffering and damage caused by their reckless and greedy search for super-profits. In fact, if BP and Big Oil is left untouched by government intervention the whole Deepwater catastrophe could turn out to be a source of more profits for Big Oil. A Citigroup analyst report states: “Reaction to the Gulf of Mexico oil leak is a buying opportunity.”



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Re: SEIZE BP NOW!
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2010, 09:34:14 PM »
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Re: SEIZE BP NOW!
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2010, 09:38:33 PM »
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Re: SEIZE BP NOW!
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2010, 09:44:49 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2010, 09:51:55 PM »
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Re: SEIZE BP NOW!
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2010, 11:39:14 PM »
I made like 60% on my BP stock when I sold it after holding it for 1.5yrs. Their dividends are outstanding. I'm thinking of buying more now that it tanked. Blobama's gonna just slap em on the wrist. And besides if we seized everybody that f'd up there'd be no gov't cuz f it up is all they do....


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Re: SEIZE BP NOW!
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 12:33:58 AM »
You're right Warren.  The dividends are outstanding.  In fact BP will be paying out 10.5 billion dollars in dividends for just this past quarter.  But at what cost?  Our ecology is being utterly destroyed.  Thousands of everyday working class folks lives are in ruins because of this ecological and economic nightmare.  Think about that the next time you cash one of those checks.

You are also right that BP will probably only get a slap on the wrist.  Why?  Because the laws have been set up to protect corporations and not people.  After the Exxon Valdez spill President George H. W. Bush signed into law the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 which set the liability cap to a measly $75 million.  That is less than the profit BP makes in one day!  And when the Democrats tried to raise the cap to $10 billion the measure was blocked twice by Republicans.

By the way, the estimated clean up costs on this spill are already over $14 billion!

As far as your remark about the government, "f it up is all they do..." that statement certainly applies to your beloved British Petroleum.  Face it.  This situation is FUBAR!  But, as long as you're making money and the oil is not coming up on your beach, perhaps you can choose to just not think about it.

Right now BP is calling all the shots and not making much progress.  Despite our government's protests they are filling the ocean with a chemical dispersement that many scientists agree is more harmful than the oil itself.   In fact, its use is actually banned in Britain!  

Also, BP has actually forbid people from certain areas of the gulf, so they aren't able to photograph the devastation.  And not only by land and sea, but by air.  There are areas of the gulf have been deemed no fly zones at the direction of BP!  So now BP (a foreign corporation) is giving orders to our Coast Guard and the FAA!

When the health care debate was in full swing many were calling it a government takeover and screaming, "Socialism!"  

Just remember, when the corporations take over and start calling the shots, that my friend, is Fascism.

But, hey, whatever...

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 12:41:50 AM »
Please..Lets not turn this into a NJSWF Debate Guys.... t^




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Re: SEIZE BP NOW!
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2010, 12:45:53 AM »
There's no debate here Rod.  Just facts. t^

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Re: SEIZE BP NOW!
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2010, 07:28:20 AM »
Whats on your hook ?


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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2010, 08:13:49 AM »
Whats on your hook ?


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Re: SEIZE BP NOW!
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2010, 08:16:27 AM »
I'm all for sticking it to the bad guys but I can't support giving the govt the power to sieze anymore than they already have...not that facebook or an internet group is actually going to have any effect on anything...sorry guys.

Besides, IMO the gov't shares the blame with BP for not placing controls and requring failsafes. There are codes and regulations governing the design of building an outhouse. There should be codes and regulations governing the design and building of oils wells in 5000 feet of water.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2010, 02:49:58 PM »
I signed it, but I am in agreement with bassnblues, the government is at fault as much as BP. There should be rules and laws on when where and how deep you should be able to drill!!

too bad a slap on the wrist is all they will get!

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Re: SEIZE BP NOW!
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2010, 10:22:47 PM »
Unfortunately you can't have it both ways.  For 30 years we have had administrations that stressed deregulation in order to kiss the a$$es of the corporations and their fat cat CEOs.

Recently town hall meetings were overrun with people screaming for smaller government and even less regulation.  In fact, Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana was one of those deriding attempts by the federal government to help Louisiana's economy through stimulus money.  Of course, he wound up accepting every penny.

So all of these folks were yelling for the government to get out our our lives, and for them to get off the backs of the corporations.  "Drill Baby Drill!" was the mantra. 

Well, their wish was granted.  BP was given a free pass, and it has literally blown up in their faces.

Now everyone screams "it's the government's fault for not having tighter controls!" :headscra:


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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2010, 11:33:19 PM »
Bob, you have to be careful in the terms you use.  Socialism and Fascism are not opposites but more like cousins.  Both ideas and ideologies originated in Europe and both advocate an all-powerful centralized government.  Yes they are different but their link is the centralized government control.  While unlike the two Capitalism is under the control is the individual corporations ideological philosophy.

Socialist : internationalists who work with each other across the globe.

Fascist : Devoted – nationalists

Socialists : Favor governmental ownership of means of production.

Fascist : They have no problem with private ownership so long as corporations are compliant with government                                objections.

Socialists : are impassioned secularists and generally disdain organized religion.

Fascist : Are generally seek and receive the support of the church and encourage religious participation.

Socialist : Love social engineering, collective farms and Kibbutz’s.

Fascists : Generally social conservatives, support the military, law, and order and traditional family structure.

In my opinion I would not choose either as I look upon my self as a capitalist. In my thinking I would rather allow the corporations the freedom to choose their own paths.  That is what makes this country so great.  We have the right to be free to choose Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.   These are god given rights and not entitlements. 

Happiness here is the right to make choices weather they are right or wrong; they (the companies) have that right to try.  If you take that away you are changing the Constitutional right of every American.  We were a work in progress but now that progress has been turned back to the days of Woodrow Wilson.  Try looking up his presidency and parallel it with our President now.  It is shocking.

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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2010, 12:41:07 AM »
Paul,

I really don't know what your point was here.  And I don't want to derail the topic.  Never did I mention that socialism and fascism were opposites or cousins or sisters or whatever.  It really has nothing to do with the spill.  So, let's skip that one and talk about it another time.  OK?

As for "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness", these rights, or entitlements (same thing, let's not split hairs), refer to people not corporations.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness."

How does BP fit into this? :headscra:

Happiness here is the right to make choices weather they are right or wrong; they (the companies) have that right to try.

By this logic, companies should be free to do whatever they want?  Right or wrong?  They have the right to try anything?  Even if that means causing death, screwing up the ecology and economy, and ruining the lives of thousands of people?

With all due respect, I think you've missed the boat here Paul.

I haven't been in a college classroom in many years.  But I do remember something called "strict liability".  It's a term you learn in your first year of Business Law.  Basically, it says that if you want to sell dynamite, and your dynamite warehouse blows up, you are responsible for all damages incurred.  It doesn't matter if you adhered to every law and regulation concerning the handling and storage of that dynamite. Merely being in the dynamite business makes you liable for any damage that dynamite causes.

This is the case with BP.  BP should be held liable for all the damage this oil spill caused (and will cause).  A $75 million cap is a joke!  BP is responsible and BP should be made to pay, whatever the cost!

Toward that end, the government should seize at least $10 billion of BPs assets to ensure that money will be paid out to the victims of this catastrophe.


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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2010, 01:00:51 AM »
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When the health care debate was in full swing many were calling it a government takeover and screaming, "Socialism!" 

Just remember, when the corporations take over and start calling the shots, that my friend, is Fascism.

But, hey, whatever...
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2010, 01:30:03 AM »
Again Bob your facts are way to far left, my friend.  This would be certain death to O’Bambam is he went along with this knee jerk position.  First you would have to remember the “B” in BP stands for British Petroleum and not “AP” American Petroleum.  Even if we were to nationalize BP the precedent that would be set could cause a catastrophic collapse in the political grapevine that holds our allies together. 

Yes I know it has been done to us before but do we really want to have this happen again?  What about do unto others as you would have done unto you?  Remember Venezuela and Russia?  How would we feel if Exxon were to be naturalized by the countries in the North Atlantic?  Are these the things we want to be known by?  I think not.

When you really think about It., wouldn’t the government be taking over the oil industry?  Here we go again…This would be the way the government would be backing BP?  Would we then have to pay the monies that BP should be liable for?

I believe the criminal and civic probes are the steps in the right direction, not take over.  We must keep the pressure on the company and enforce existing laws; by keeping the pressure on, will force things to happen.  Government takeover could make a bad situation worse.

Beside, do our experts have a better idea that would work, if so why have they not spoken up?

I too Bob am a college grad and one of my majors was Pols.  But I have not used my little gray cell for that in a long time.  So, I am enjoying the discussion and at least there will be a different spin on the subject...
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Re: SEIZE BP NOW!
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2010, 07:45:45 AM »
As I've noted before, I'm not looking to debate this and shift the focus away from the criminals at BP.  The argument has been made.  I will leave it at that.

Do I really  believe the seizure will really happen?  No. The odds are against it.  But it doesn't mean we can't try. t^


 

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