Illegal Fluke being caught

[Luna Sea 5]

A friend of mine from work said he went on a Charter boat last weekend and killed the seabass, but he also claims that the captain kept small Seabass and 7 Fluke out of season.  My friend was happy with the meat, but I wasn't happy how he got it.

Is this the practice of Charter captains?  Make the costumer happy, regardless how he does it?  I understand when a person pays alot of money to charter a boat and he wants to bring home fish, but I am not sure this practice it acceptable.  It isn't with me.

[wb]

hell if you're gonna ignore the law might as well smoke pot and drink heavily too.

[Luna Sea 5]

not sure if I want to blow this Charter Captain out of the water yet, on this site.  If anyone wants to know who, I will tell ya. 

For one, he is NOT a sponsor here.

[Hotrod]

Maybe he had the permit?

I wouldn't post it..

[IrishAyes]

I wouldn't post it, only because it is second hand knowledge. Not saying that your buddy isn't telling the truth, but it is still hear-say and that has no validity.

Do I believe your buddy is telling the truth and that this is happening, yes. But that is only my opinion.

[Bucktail]

A friend of mine from work said he went on a Charter boat last weekend and killed the seabass, but he also claims that the captain kept small Seabass and 7 Fluke out of season.  My friend was happy with the meat, but I wasn't happy how he got it.

No offense to you, but if your friend accepted it then he shouldn't complain.  He is part if the problem.

[Luna Sea 5]

Maybe he had the permit?

I wouldn't post it..

he had no permit.. fillet it after caught, then hid it.

[Luna Sea 5]

A friend of mine from work said he went on a Charter boat last weekend and killed the seabass, but he also claims that the captain kept small Seabass and 7 Fluke out of season.  My friend was happy with the meat, but I wasn't happy how he got it.

No offense to you, but if your friend accepted it then he shouldn't complain.  He is part if the problem.

my friend is an oler, old school Italian who only wants the meat.  He isn't a fisherman where he would actually know the regs., so he isn't complaining.  In conversation, he was telling me about his trip.  At that point, he also told me the captain kept 7 fluke and filleted it on the spot and didn't keep it with the other fish.  My friend didn't know why, but I did.  My friend didn't know the fluke season was closed.  He is just a guy who took his son and his friends on a fishing trip.  

Is it the charter fishing guys who supposed to know the regs, or the captain?

If I charted the Luna Sea 4 and if my crew caught a fish out of season, I would throw it back.  I don't expect my crew to know the regs if they don't fish frequently.

If I went to Florida tomorrow and charted a boat, I wouldn't have a clue what to keep and not to keep.  I would have to take the word of the captain.  I am paying the captain for his knowledge as well as his ability to putting fish in the boat.

[Bucktail]

Sorry.  I misread your post.  I thought it said he wasn't happy about how he got it.

And I agree that if he doesn't fish that much and isn't up on the regs he would have to take the word of the captain.

[sperzonkers2]

I agree Nick, if you charter a boat you are paying the Captain to put you on fish an know the regs. We had this happen to us up on Lake Ontario. We were trolling with down riggers for lake trout. The captain put the fish we caught in the box  and
when we got in he told us that they were not legal size   Nice guy now we had to decide if we should report him or not

[CapBob]

A friend of mine from work said he went on a Charter boat last weekend and killed the seabass, but he also claims that the captain kept small Seabass and 7 Fluke out of season.  My friend was happy with the meat, but I wasn't happy how he got it.

No offense to you, but if your friend accepted it then he shouldn't complain.  He is part if the problem.

Bob is 1000% correct.......your friend is as much of a problem as the boat Capt.  He is just as guilty, really must question his motive for opening his yap

[IrishAyes]

Sounds like it's a possibility that the guy didn't know the regs until his talk with Nick about the catch.

I too agree that the charter boat captain is the one who should know the regs more so than the clients. If a guy is only fishing one or two times a year how much knowledge does he really have about the regs?

[Kenny]

I feel that rules are the rules whether I agree with the regs or not.

If I were going on a trip out of state I would personally make myself aware of any and all regs that I would be subject to...

I would rather see healthy fish stocks than an illegal fish in my cooler.

Just my .02

[Hunter 2]

I would drop this,  Im sure it happens sometimes, We should not use this sight for finger pointing. You could get negative feedback. Also we do not know who are viewing these threads, It could be viewed by officials too. Plus, You dont want any 10 oz sinkers thrown in your direction as you pass this guy coming around the Hook.   Just my opinion. 

[Luna Sea 5]

A friend of mine from work said he went on a Charter boat last weekend and killed the seabass, but he also claims that the captain kept small Seabass and 7 Fluke out of season.  My friend was happy with the meat, but I wasn't happy how he got it.

No offense to you, but if your friend accepted it then he shouldn't complain.  He is part if the problem.

Bob is 1000% correct.......your friend is as much of a problem as the boat Capt.  He is just as guilty, really must question his motive for opening his yap

not sure how anyone can feel this way.  We were just talking in work.  He didn't know there were any reg reguarding Fluke, since he isn't a fisherman.  When he told me the story, I told him, "do you know why he fillets the fluke and hid it", he said no.. I told him its because they are out of season.  He fishes once every 3 years, don't know the regs and in my opinion, he isn't required to know them if he is chartering a boat.  Now, if he was a private boat owner, like us, he would have to make it his business to know the regs.

[Tacklebox Joe]

I feel that rules are the rules whether I agree with the regs or not.

If I were going on a trip out of state I would personally make myself aware of any and all regs that I would be subject to...

I would rather see healthy fish stocks than an illegal fish in my cooler.

Just my .02

  100% agree with you Kenny...you should prepare and make yourself aware! (dang that rhymed )

[CapBob]

A friend of mine from work said he went on a Charter boat last weekend and killed the seabass, but he also claims that the captain kept small Seabass and 7 Fluke out of season.  My friend was happy with the meat, but I wasn't happy how he got it.

No offense to you, but if your friend accepted it then he shouldn't complain.  He is part if the problem.

Bob is 1000% correct.......your friend is as much of a problem as the boat Capt.  He is just as guilty, really must question his motive for opening his yap

not sure how anyone can feel this way.  We were just talking in work.  He didn't know there were any reg regarding Fluke, since he isn't a fisherman.  When he told me the story, I told him, "do you know why he fillets the fluke and hid it", he said no.. I told him its because they are out of season.  He fishes once every 3 years, don't know the regs and in my opinion, he isn't required to know them if he is chartering a boat.  Now, if he was a private boat owner, like us, he would have to make it his business to know the regs.

I can feel that way because it is the Angler or Hunters Responsibility to know the Rugs and Regulations Before they go afloat or Afield.....by using your logic I guess one can drive a car without knowing the traffic laws and claim ignorance when they get pulled over for violating a law.

Pretty much a BS answer that I didn't know, time to Butch up and take responsibility for ones actions

[Luna Sea 5]

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by using your logic I guess one can drive a car without knowing the traffic laws and claim ignorance when they get pulled over for violating a law.

[/quote]Is the the passengars responsibility to know the traffic laws.. NOPE, its the drivers responsibility to know this law.  Correct?  Why should the guy in the back seat get a ticket when the driver runs a red light. 

The Captain of a vessel is responsible for EVERYTHING that goes on, on that vessel.  Correct? 

It is not the passengers responsibility to know the rules of the road when he is using public transportation.

It is not the fishermans responsibility to know the rules of the water when he is using a Charter captain. 

[Hotrod]

It Happens..  all the time...

[CapBob]

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by using your logic I guess one can drive a car without knowing the traffic laws and claim ignorance when they get pulled over for violating a law.

Is the the passengars responsibility to know the traffic laws.. NOPE, its the drivers responsibility to know this law.  Correct?  Why should the guy in the back seat get a ticket when the driver runs a red light. 

The Captain of a vessel is responsible for EVERYTHING that goes on, on that vessel.  Correct? 

It is not the passengers responsibility to know the rules of the road when he is using public transportation.

It is not the fishermans responsibility to know the rules of the water when he is using a Charter captain. 


[/quote]

By using my logic one takes responsibilty for ones self...and quits blaming others....that is the F'n problem nowadays, people blame someone else for their F'up....

Grow a set and take some responsibilty, period