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NJ Saltwater Fishing Reports and Information => Helping Each Other Out => Topic started by: rossg on July 23, 2007, 06:18:30 PM
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If you have never caught an albie or bonito,make this the year to do it.Get a bucket of chum and chum lightly(mix with lots of seawater)and keep spicing the slick with spearing.There are lots of spearing around and my sons already seined a 5gallon bucket in half an hour.Any of the back bay beaches will produce.These fish will come into the slick and start picking up the spearing.Fish with small 1/0 2/0 hooks making sure to hide the hook.Fluro is a good idea as the fish have great eye sight.Hold on as line peels off
your reel.The runs are never ending.Start the slick on areas that you would fish for bluefish.17 fathoms,the Mud buoy,Barne Ridge.
This is very exciting fishing and they are on their way.If you guys are catching them, give me a holler.
Ross
The Lady J
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Hi Ross,
Great tip and post!
Ross is right about these speedsters. Very beautiful to photograph as well.
Hope you to talk to you soon,
Ed
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Nice info Ross. Thanks. t^
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hey thanks for the tip!
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great info, thanks.
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Hotrod needs to be into that TT^
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i dont think they are in yet, maybe mid Aug.. but they are a blast
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Oh boy another one to try LOL ... Wife gonna kill me already saying i need bigger boat so i can go out farther ;D
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i'm in need of an overnighter at the barnegat ridge.
thanks for the tips TT^
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Thanks Ross,
Great tip, now only if I can chum the surf.
Hey Capt. Ed, idea here. What attracts blues to a school of bunker? could part of the lure be the sound they make as a large mass and could it be recorded and reproduced to lure fish to the boat or surf via aqua phone?
Just wondering...
Happy Catching
Paul
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If you are going to chum for them, better bring A LOT of hooks because 99.9% of the run-offs you will get will be bluefish.
You will know when you get the bonita or Albie tho :)
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If you are going to chum for them, better bring A LOT of hooks because 99.9% of the run-offs you will get will be bluefish.
You will know when you get the bonita or Albie tho :)
i pick them up at the mudbouy, since your using small bait, the bluefish wont bother you to much with them. They are great to catch. your boat should be big enought to get to the mudbouy on a nice day..
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Piggy, we can take my boat to mudbuoy or wherever they are closer in and you will get tons of bluefish chumming for bonita!
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you won't get tons of bluefish chumming bonita, you will chum live killies and cut spearing... the slick will not be thick enought to attract bluefish. Bluefish you chum very heavy, bonita and albies, you chum lightly... handfull of live killies.. they will dart towards the boat and you will see flashes..
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You do that when tyou see them breaking and know they are in the area.
You can't just camp out in an area you think they are and start throwing out killies and spearing.
That works in Fl with a shallow wreck or something, but not in 50' of water around here.
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Check out the new issue (August 2007) of SaltWater Sportsman magazine. Good article on fishing for bonito, false albacore (little tunny) and skipjack tuna in New York Harbour. t^
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You can't just camp out in an area you think they are and start throwing out killies and spearing.
I am not telling you this because i am guessing.... I am telling you this because I have done it many, many times and it works. If your looking for advice on how to catch a certain species of fish, then take the advice that is given to you and not challenge it. YES, I HAVE SAT AT THE MUD BOUY IN LATE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER AND HAVE CHUMMED UP MANY, BONITA, AND ALBIES. If you don't want to use this tactic that works for me, then don't.
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Then you are going to have to come with me and Salty Pig and prove your technique :)
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not a problem
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How many killies do you bring and how many do you throw out at once while chumming with them?
How do you choose a location to start chumming with the killies or small amounts of spearing?
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THE KEY TO KEEPING THE BLUEFISH AWAY IS THE LIGHT WATERED DOWN CHUM.
lOTS OF SPEARING IN THE SLICK
WE WILL ALL BE TALKING ABOUT IT WHEN THEY GET IN.
I HAVE CAUGHT THEM AT THE MUD BUOY(OFF THE HIGHLANDS) AND SOUTH AT THE RIDGE.
THESE FISH RUN LIKE NOTHING YOU HAVE SEEN.
IM TALKING 100 YARD INITIAL RUNS
MAKE SURE THOSE DRAGS ARE SET.
ROSS
THE LADY J
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Hi Ross,
Do you mind if I use this as a Fishing Tip on our Front Page?
Thanks,
Ed
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I have caught them before (mostly at the Shrewsbury rocks).
Like catching mini yellowfin :)
Used to be a OParty boat in belmar that targeted them when everyone else chummed blues atnight (forgot the name).
I am def curious about the killie or spearing only chumming tho.
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Why go all the way to the Mud Bouy or Mud Hole?
When I was running my boat, I made decent catches of albies (with an occasional bonita right by the tip of the Hook south to the Nude Beach. Most times they were anywhere from 20-100 yards off the beach. granted it was run & gun fishing--everytime a pod of working terns was spotted I'd run upcurrent from them and fire off a cast or two. By far the best lure was as a tubeless AVA 007 or 017 tied directly to your main line. We used medium action 6'6" spinning rods with light mono. When more than 2 were hooked up, it was the classic 'chinese fire drill'. Great fun. One thing you have to realize in this fishery is that you're going to miss at least of the pods that pop up because they don't stay up for long.
Our game plan was to have at least 2 rods rigged up and ready to go for albies/bonita while drifting for fluke. Always keeping our eyes open for working terns.
Albies/bonita usually appear in the same locals year after year so at least you'll have a starting point. I usually did the best from the last week in August to mid September.
Last albie I caught was in mid October while aboard a party boat fishing inside Raritan Bay (in fact it was just outside the Monmouth Cove marina Inlet). I ended up culling it out a big school of chopper bluefish working spearing & peanut bunker. Saw plenty of other albies that day but no other hook ups. Ended that day with not only the albie & bluefish in the #6-8 class but at the end of the day we got into stripers off the tip of Hook where I added bass to 32"s to complete my grand slam.
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How many killies do you bring and how many do you throw out at once while chumming with them?
How do you choose a location to start chumming with the killies or small amounts of spearing?
When I know they are at the mud bouy, what I do is bring a couple of quarts of Killies and a bunch of spearing... OK, honestly at this point, Killies are way to expensive unless you catch your own, so you only need spearing. Take a hand full, line them up and cut them into small pieces. Start your slick. Then take a whole spearing, hide the hook in the bait as the fish spoke easy, tie the hook directly to the line, DO NOT USE BRAID, it will break, use a mono leader if you have braid on the reel, leader at 20 lbs test and not more, remember, they spoke, float your bait down with the chum..... You will see the fish take your bait, then hold on.....
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Now that sounds like fun. Don't forget to post when they come in. t^
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i don't target them unil late august, once the party boats start getting them, then I will take a ride out there and make a Bluefish, Albi's, and Sea bass trip all on one stop.
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i don't target them unil late august, once the party boats start getting them, then I will take a ride out there and make a Bluefish, Albi's, and Sea bass trip all on one stop.
your'e boats bigger. I will ride with you :)
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dont care who takes the Pig as long as we go out for them they sound like they fun to catch and good eating??????
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hi guys,
would it be a good idea to try trolling first to locate them then start with the chum?
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I don't know of too many people that eat them. Very "gamey" for a fish. Lots of red, bloody meat.
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i'll give it a try. NJ angler did a show on them and showed how to bleed them and put them in brine for an hour then take it out and have some sashimi on the boat. worth a shot ;D
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I don't know of too many people that eat them. Very "gamey" for a fish. Lots of red, bloody meat.
False albies are purely game fish but bonita is yummy TT^
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i don't target them unil late august, once the party boats start getting them, then I will take a ride out there and make a Bluefish, Albi's, and Sea bass trip all on one stop.
your'e boats bigger. I will ride with you :)
not a problem, you can come with me anytime... just let me know
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I don't know of too many people that eat them. Very "gamey" for a fish. Lots of red, bloody meat.
yes, not my favoriate, By the way, what size boat do you have..
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I dont like the run and gun fishing and prefer to fish them in a slick.
When they are there, you can throw out a handful of spearing and see them come into the slick to pick up the bait.
You then can bait them with a big spearing.
Seine up a bunch and put them in the freezer
Ross
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I dont like the run and gun fishing and prefer to fish them in a slick.
When they are there, you can throw out a handful of spearing and see them come into the slick to pick up the bait.
You then can bait them with a big spearing.
Seine up a bunch and put them in the freezer
Ross
exactly
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thanks for the tips!
how much or little do you have the drag at?
I hear they are fast so i'd hate to be feeding line out and overspool.
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it all depends on the particular size of the fish. They run in schools so they all will be similar. I use a spinning reel, set a loose drag and just feed out line until it hits, then slowly tighten the drag to its perfect set. They are really fun to catch and very, very fast. Its also a much different fight then a bluefish.
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i don't target them unil late august, once the party boats start getting them, then I will take a ride out there and make a Bluefish, Albi's, and Sea bass trip all on one stop.
your'e boats bigger. I will ride with you :)
not a problem, you can come with me anytime... just let me know
Let me know when you are going.
Just ordered me a drop/umbrella net to get some fresh spearing when I am solo and will be ordring a seine soon :)
I will bring PLENTY of fresh bait :)
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sounds like a blast! might be a nice trip to finally use my new spinning combo.
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need 2 people for seine? i got plenty of sperring in trap put them in minnow bucket DEAD next day :'(
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need 2 people for seine? i got plenty of sperring in trap put them in minnow bucket DEAD next day :'(
they don't have to be alive, or even fresh for the albies.. just need a bunch.
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DID someone mention a Nude Beach 8)
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Yes and their are plenty of men on it if that is your thing :)
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Dont call it Sausage island for nothing LOL
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Dont call it Sausage island for nothing LOL
:o :o