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Title: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 20, 2007, 01:39:28 PM
I just bought a new boat w/ a 150 optimax on the back it has been 2 weeks since my last trip w/ her .I was gonna go out in the morning w/ flukedood so I went to hook her up and raised the engine and noticed a puddle of green oil on the ground ,after a phone call to the dealer I {wich he said could be optioil from the break in } turned out to be lower unit oil comming from the prop housing ,WHAT HAPPENED  did I blow a seal .I took out the screw and she was low on oil.WTF  I just spent 41 bucks on bait for the trip and filled her up now I am stuck on land ,I called the dealer and they told me to bring her down but I asked if they could send someone to me and they were nice enough to say yes so at 730 tommorow they are driving an hour north to service my boat and if it is to big of a job they will tow it and return it to me in a couple days,so far I like the service department at lighting jacks in brick.it is just my luck I sold my other boat that ran great and spent 30 grand to stuck on land
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on April 20, 2007, 02:24:56 PM
WOW, sorry to hear that.  I am still shocked that they said that they will return the boat only after a couple of day.  Normally, if they need a part, it takes 2-3 weeks to come in.  Good Luck.
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 20, 2007, 02:27:47 PM
they might be able to fix it in my drive way ,I am gonna be pissed if it takes a couple weeks ,I just went back over to it and the oil is still comming out,I got bad luck
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: red65 on April 20, 2007, 02:30:40 PM
Sorry to hear that Cat, hope they can fix her tomorrow..
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Post by: Sam3 on April 20, 2007, 02:31:11 PM
WOW. Sorry to hear that Cat. Hopefully it's not a big deal to fix.

What a bummer.
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 20, 2007, 02:33:42 PM
it happens I just hope to get back on the water fast ,I feel bad about haveing to cancel on scrubby more than anything ,my garage is gonna smell like hell if these clams die ;D
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 20, 2007, 02:40:53 PM
any ideas what happened

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Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Flukedood on April 20, 2007, 02:44:17 PM
Dude dont worry about me Im sure there will be other trips we can plan. The biggest thing is get your brand new boat squared away.. Thats the most important thing
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on April 20, 2007, 02:46:48 PM
Sorry to hear that Cat, hope they can fix her tomorrow..

It sounds like its only a seal.  Not a biggie.  But if they have to replace the lower unit, or need parts for the lower unit, it make take up to 3 weeks for the part, but only take an hour to actually fix it.  I work for the UAW, automotive union and work in the parts depot.  For cars, they get there parts the next day.  For boat parts, it may take a while. 
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 20, 2007, 02:49:54 PM
thanks ,it seams like a seal ,she only has 2 hours on her so I dont think anything major went wrong
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on April 20, 2007, 02:51:26 PM
thanks ,it seams like a seal ,she only has 2 hours on her so I dont think anything major went wrong

Is it brand new?
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 20, 2007, 02:52:41 PM
brand new ,only has 2 hours on it still have 10 more hours of break in on it
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on April 20, 2007, 02:54:52 PM
brand new ,only has 2 hours on it still have 10 more hours of break in on it

I had a problem with a new boat I got a few years ago.  When we took our trial ride, the boat over heated.  Then when we looked, all of the hoses weren't properly put on, just put together and not clamped.  My guess would be that since it is brand new, something just may need to be adjusted and may not need fixing. 
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 20, 2007, 02:56:05 PM
thanks for the help
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on April 20, 2007, 03:01:33 PM
thanks for the help

Another good thing, since its new, they should have any parts needed on hand and may not have to order them.  AND, since you just got it from the marina, they will probably put you first on there list and rush to get it done for you since they just made the sale.  Its usually a year later when you need them, they all of a sudden become too busy and have you wait for months to get a broken boat back. 
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 20, 2007, 03:07:20 PM
they have been good to me so far ,I am not a nice guy when stuff goes wrong and they still deal w/ me ,I hope they can fix it fast if not I have to freeze all my clams
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: wingshooter on April 20, 2007, 03:13:01 PM
dude sorry to hear about the boat, me and WoodruffLou were so looking forwards to break the first thing on it, and you just ruinned our fun.......

if you need a hand tomorrow morning let me know,,i dont have a game till the afternoon
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Ruger314 on April 20, 2007, 07:57:45 PM
If its that new you'll be taken care of fast..and should be covered under warranty!! If you need help have a outboards service man on call.. works on the mercs.. Pm. tomorrow

Good luck!!
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: rugman on April 20, 2007, 08:14:37 PM
hi cat, sorry to hear about the boat, better it happen in the drive way . :'(  well good luck with her . if it is not fix by the big contest!! i have room on my boat for you bud :)
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 20, 2007, 08:17:21 PM
rug I will row my team out there before I let your team win
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: rugman on April 20, 2007, 08:21:32 PM
nice guy :'( :'( :'( :'( some one wants to give you $25.00 for you sex seat , did you see it ? team rugman as another boat with the team 19 sea boss . we will cover it all.
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: wingshooter on April 20, 2007, 11:57:15 PM
rug I will row my team out there before I let your team win


i can just see our chubby friend sitting in the front yelling,,,STROKE< STROKE <STROKE   ;D


boat is too new for that, after they fix it tell them they owe you for the oil stain on your driveway

Title: Re: engine help
Post by: rugman on April 21, 2007, 07:10:52 AM
oil stain< good point . give them hell catfish :(
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 21, 2007, 08:10:22 AM
well they came to my house and picked her up at 7 ,If they have the part they will have it back this afternoon
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Ruger314 on April 21, 2007, 03:48:24 PM
Well whats the word???
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Hotrod on April 21, 2007, 06:18:14 PM
Just for the record...

This is one of the most asked questions On iboats. And I To asked this question once. Now I'm not saying it shouldn't be looked at but are you sure that's not your mixed oil?

All the 2 stroke oil doesn't burn off..  and will drip from your exhaust..  is it the same color of your mix oil?  I don't thing your lower unit lube is that thin..

Is it oil injected? is it set high for break in?
I know when I broke mine in that's what I had..
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Capt. Ed on April 21, 2007, 06:22:36 PM
Hi Rod,

I agree ... lower unit oil is much thicker and usually amberish in color.

It looks like engine oil (mine is a little darker as I use Yamalube).

When I had a problem with my sender unit from the oil reserve tank under the cowling, I got all kinds of "overspill" back through the exhaust as the mix was way too rich. I hope that was not the case.

Was the engine running well before it was pulled from the water ...

We will all see shortly.

Ed
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Hotrod on April 21, 2007, 06:26:12 PM
Right Ed..  I say it smells like gas.  if so..  Go fishing!!

Check.  does it smell like gas?
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: red65 on April 21, 2007, 07:32:31 PM
How did youmake out???
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Fishin Dude on April 21, 2007, 07:44:14 PM
I feel bad for you. New boat, great luck on your maiden voyage , now this. At least it happened on land, not after you were underway on water, leading to severe engine damage, tow, etc.  Good Luck on the repair.  <'((((><
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Hotrod on April 21, 2007, 07:59:59 PM
well they came to my house and picked her up at 7 ,If they have the part they will have it back this afternoon

Ah..  Missed this post..  did they say it was a seal when they picked it up?
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 21, 2007, 08:24:20 PM
the oil was not the same colol as my opti oil so I was nerves the shop puicked her up this morning and had her back to my house by 5 this afternoon ,it turns out I picked up some fishing line and it cut the seal ,I am good to go now ,I cant say enough about the dealer they are great so far
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Hotrod on April 21, 2007, 08:47:41 PM
Great!!.  Wow Fishing Line.  eek..
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 21, 2007, 09:37:46 PM
the guys at my dock didnt move there lines last time I came in and I grabed a line I didnt think any thing of it until now
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Ruger314 on April 21, 2007, 09:41:39 PM
Hey.. Good to new that.. and glad it turn out ok.. We also learn  that one dealer is standing behind its name.

heading out tomorrow???..
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 21, 2007, 09:47:47 PM
I will be around the keyport area looking for some flatties and bass w/ my wife ,I have to say the dealer is great ,they picked it up from my house and drove it an hour away and got it back the same day
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Ruger314 on April 21, 2007, 09:49:29 PM
Need to inform Hotrod on posting a list of recommended dealer and shops the get the job done?? Hey I hit you on the radio..68 around 9 or10am???
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 21, 2007, 09:51:58 PM
buddies ole lady has sunday school so we are gonna be out there around 1230 til dark ,I'll pm you my cell
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: rugman on April 21, 2007, 10:19:34 PM
Need to inform Hotrod on posting a list of recommended dealer and shops the get the job done?? Hey I hit you on the radio..68 around 9 or10am???
??? ??? ???hotrod, sounds like you are slaking dude . do i have to take over ;D
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Pole-lock on April 21, 2007, 10:42:01 PM
Wow..Fishin line cut the seal? I'm gonna add a prop line check to the list. Glad they fixed it catfish..
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 21, 2007, 10:46:26 PM
I never thought it would happen but it did ,I am back on the water and I owe fluke ddude a trip
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: lefteye on April 21, 2007, 11:22:54 PM
Glad you are back in business, Charlie. I am planning on heading up to Keyport with my boat next weekend, probably Sunday. I'll be glad to follow you to your hotspots. ;D
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Hotrod on April 21, 2007, 11:42:03 PM
Hey lefteye.  Welcome to the site...

Yu can't hide from the welcome committee here :o
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Post by: wingshooter on April 21, 2007, 11:43:43 PM
Charlie glad it all worked out,,,,tell King to reel in next time,,,,


Lefteye- glad to see you found us
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: ped579 on April 21, 2007, 11:50:49 PM
Hello and welcome to the greatest site on earth...Sorry, boy do I gotta get out fishing tomorrow.  This honey do stuff today is killing me.  This is a great site though pull up a comfortable chair grab a cold beverage and jump right in the surfing is fine.

Again welcome Lefteye ;D
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: lefteye on April 22, 2007, 01:20:33 AM
I am on a site with Lou and Charlie as moderators? Holy crap!!
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Capt. Ed on April 22, 2007, 01:21:48 AM
Hi Catfish,

Excellent info and I am glad it was an easy fix.

Good luck fishing tomorrow.

Welcome Lefteye!

Best wishes,

Capt. Ed
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: rugman on April 22, 2007, 05:53:49 AM
hi lefteye, this is the rug man whats up ?
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 22, 2007, 07:48:56 AM
I am on a site with Lou and Charlie as moderators? Holy crap!!
how have you been lefteye ,welcome
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Sam3 on April 22, 2007, 08:32:13 AM
Great news Catfish. Glad to hear it's fixed and that the dealer is top notch.
Fishing line...wow.

Hey lefteye...welcome.
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on April 22, 2007, 04:36:28 PM
the oil was not the same colol as my opti oil so I was nerves the shop puicked her up this morning and had her back to my house by 5 this afternoon ,it turns out I picked up some fishing line and it cut the seal ,I am good to go now ,I cant say enough about the dealer they are great so far

I did say it sounds like just a seal...  nice to have ya back.
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 22, 2007, 08:06:41 PM
just got back after the test run w/ her same problem ,she ran great on the way out comming in she lost pressure in the ball had to drive 5 mph all the way home .now the dealer is gonna get an ear full
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: rugman on April 22, 2007, 08:31:53 PM
look out . catfish give them hell >:(
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: drome on April 22, 2007, 08:38:46 PM
The best two days of owning a boat... the day you buy it and the day you sell it!! 

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 22, 2007, 08:43:29 PM
thet are gonna hear from me ,I called as I was stuck on the water and told off the sales man ,they told me they test ran the boat ,well how come they didnt get stranded out 20 miles from home ,wait till tommorow
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: drome on April 22, 2007, 08:46:51 PM
Catfish sorry to hear... Sounds like you need to call the dealer and give them the ole, fix the damn thing or it will be parked trailer and all in front of your showroom doors tommorow.
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 22, 2007, 08:48:49 PM
I already told the guy I was comming down there and he told me to call the owner in the morning ,I am pissed
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: red65 on April 22, 2007, 08:55:52 PM
That's to bad, I can just imagine how you feel. Spend hard earned money and not be able to enjoy it.
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Pole-lock on April 23, 2007, 09:35:12 AM
Take a deep breath.... You'll get it fixed...It is still early Catfish.. Bass will be there for you when your back running...
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Sam3 on April 23, 2007, 09:41:12 AM
Wow. That stinks.  >:(
The best two days of owning a boat... the day you buy it and the day you sell it!! 

 ;D ;D ;D

I've heard that before.  ;D

Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on April 23, 2007, 10:11:45 AM
the oil was not the same colol as my opti oil so I was nerves the shop puicked her up this morning and had her back to my house by 5 this afternoon ,it turns out I picked up some fishing line and it cut the seal ,I am good to go now ,I cant say enough about the dealer they are great so far

I did say it sounds like just a seal...  nice to have ya back.

YIKEs...  did I speak to soon
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 23, 2007, 10:23:03 AM
Take a deep breath.... You'll get it fixed...It is still early Catfish.. Bass will be there for you when your back running...
I am pissed over the fact that I just went into debt for 15 years and have a boat the is having problems but I know it is gonna happen it is a small issue that can be fixed I am waiting to hear from the dealer ,I called this morning and the owner spoke w/ me he seemed upset over this whole issue I am having ,so far I have faith in the dealer
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Pole-lock on April 23, 2007, 10:57:26 AM
Is this the 3rd problem? I'd be pissed too!
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Post by: Ruger314 on April 23, 2007, 06:08:40 PM
Hey, You at least are getting a response from the dealer..DnR hasn't address the issue with my intake propeller..!!
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 25, 2007, 12:09:18 PM
the dealer just called and said they found a clog in the gas line and it was removed ,they are gonna run the boat for the next hour or so and see if all is o.k. ,gotta say they are good so far to me ,I know they just fix and sell the boats and dont build them bt I did tell them off once or twice and they still are great ,they are gonna drop off the boat this evening ,hope all is well now
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on April 25, 2007, 03:03:54 PM
the dealer just called and said they found a clog in the gas line and it was removed ,they are gonna run the boat for the next hour or so and see if all is o.k. ,gotta say they are good so far to me ,I know they just fix and sell the boats and dont build them bt I did tell them off once or twice and they still are great ,they are gonna drop off the boat this evening ,hope all is well now

there are 2 things to rate, the service department and  then the quality of the boat.  It looks like the service is great, but the quality of the boat so far is in question.  All of these things should have been checked from the factory, then checked again by the dealer, by the time it gets to you, it should be PERFECT. 
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on April 26, 2007, 10:10:28 AM
just got off the phone w/ the dealer and they found the problem ,they said that when the tank got put in they were sealing everything with silacone and a drop of it got on the screen and caused a clog in my pick up ,they ran the boat for a couple hours and they are bringing it back to me soon ,hope all is well this time
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: Capt. Ed on April 26, 2007, 04:30:20 PM
Hi Cat,

I hope this gets you past some of the headaches.

The dealer sounds like they were very helpful ...

Good luck and I hope the drama has past,

Capt. Ed

PS. Time to go fishing ...
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: drome on April 26, 2007, 08:47:05 PM
Take a deep breath.... You'll get it fixed...It is still early Catfish.. Bass will be there for you when your back running...

That's b/s.... take a big boot and put it up the dealers a**.  If you bought a new car and the engine crapped out three times everyone would be screaming exercise the lemon law... The same should apply to boat dealers.   When I buy something new I do it because I don't want to deal with the problems associated with the word used.

Title: Re: engine help
Post by: BAHILA / PCramer6 on May 02, 2007, 01:49:05 PM
Sorry to hear about your boat but regards to Lightning Jacks Marina.. Thats where I have a slip for my boat.  Dale Write a long time personal friend of mine owns Professional Marine Racing which is attached to lightning  jacks sales office.  The usually work with high output marine racing engines but do a lot of service work on other outboards, i/o's and inboards.  I highly recommend them as for not only is he a friend of mine but he's very nice, reliable, and cost effective and will go out of his way to accommodate you.  "If you can find someone trustworthy to make your repairs..it's money in the bank" 8)

Professional Marine Racing
Lightning Jacks Marina
809 Route 70 Brick, NJ
732-477-7037
Ask for Dale or Danny

PC
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: catfish hunter on May 02, 2007, 02:06:58 PM
jacks is where I bought the boat and they work on it for me they are great
Title: Re: engine help
Post by: BAHILA / PCramer6 on May 02, 2007, 02:32:09 PM
If you don't mind me asking what year is your Merc Optimax?  I only ask because I believe the 2002 yr for those outboards got dubbed the name "POPtiMax" because the power heads always blew out among other problems.  Just a rumor though..not from self experience.  Do you slip at Jack's?  Maybe I'll see ya around.
PC