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NJ Saltwater Fishing Reports and Information => Helping Each Other Out => Topic started by: Luna Sea 5 on June 05, 2008, 01:55:13 PM
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With all of these NY/NJ regulations of size limit.. What if you kept all fish alive in your live well.. Now if you port in NJ waters an happened to drift into NY waters with 18" fluke in your live well, will you get fined or will the CG just have you release the fish that are not NY keepers since they will be released alive and healthy....
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As I recall it is posession of undersize fish whether alive or dead that is the problem.
Good question tho
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If it is in your posession in their eyes it is your intent to keep the fish. Your screwed.
NJDEVIL >:D
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You be gettin' a fine!
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Nick, when my house mate is on his next leave from the Academy I'll ask him if he can bring this up to his superior. I'm fairly certain he will be working those waters. t^
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If you're stopped in NY waters while fishing or seen fishing there, regardles if the fish is alive or dead, it's in your possession and must be a legal NY fish.
While maybe on an off chance you'll find a NY DEC officer that just won the lottery and will be in a good mood, more than likely you're gonna get a fine and they'll probably take/release the fish as well.
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The authorities have a lot of discretion whether to write or not. As Gottog said, depends on the mood, etc. A lot depends on the circumstances.
But, be prepared to be written up.
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Nick
Any undersize fish on the boat is in violation.....it is the officers discretion whether to write you or not.......but from what I have heard not to many have been warned 5hrug
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Fishing and boating is one of the better stress relivers that I know. Where else can you meet so many people on the water, eg: coast guard, state police, dep, fish and game,epa ????? rgmn
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what if you catch an 18 inch fluke, and while in the cooler (or w/e you keep it for the day) it shrinks an 1/8th of an inch.... what is the fine per short fluke anyway ?
"im the last person to keep a fluke shorter than its legal size limit" chrz
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thanks guys
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what if you catch an 18 inch fluke, and while in the cooler (or w/e you keep it for the day) it shrinks an 1/8th of an inch.... what is the fine per short fluke anyway ?
"im the last person to keep a fluke shorter than its legal size limit" chrz
i think its $54. Not 100% sure though.
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When I had my tackle shop we had a large mouth bass in a tank and we had ex wardens that would hang out in the shop. They told us we would need a permit for an under size fish in the tank.
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I was approach by a co last year prior to cleaning my fish at the dock. As I pulled one out I said. This one was right on the money I hope I don't get a fine because it shrunk a 1/4" from being cold...
he said. Actually it's the opposite.. they grow. and sure enough it was more that over. I'd say 1/4". probably their meat/muscle relaxes after death. who knows.
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was always afraid to keep those right on the money,thought they would shrink a little also.
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My father and uncle were in Raratin bay last week, they got boarded by a fedral game warden. He did not check saftey equipment just fish, they had two fluke in the live well, one was 18 and a half and the other was 23 inches. They came on checked the fish and left with no problems.But.... they ran into a friend of theirs out on the water who was also boarded, and his boarding didnt go as well. He had 4 fluke, the smallest one measured 18 inches and they made him release it.He tried to argue it, pleading that it was 18 inches and it was. This warden didnt want to hear it. So after being told a few times and back and fourth arguing he released the fish.He was told he was lucky it was in the live well. I wasnt there I was just told what happened. I think the person with out mentioning names owns a marina in that area,and is the nicest guy you could meet. So I'm sure the fish was 18 inches, and this really happened. 18 inches is 18 inches, its pretty messed up that this happened.
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very interesting.
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When I had my tackle shop we had a large mouth bass in a tank and we had ex wardens that would hang out in the shop. They told us we would need a permit for an under size fish in the tank.
As far as I know it's Illegal to keep any Native species of any kind in captivity unless you can prove they were purchased out of state and you have the paperwork. Then you can apply to the state for a permit. I have 3 Pine Snakes here that were bought in Cali and shipped here and registered with the state. t^
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Spoke to one of the Wardens when I saw him in Highlands and he was telling the guys some of the coolers with measurments on the top of the cooler are coming up short (the measurements are not accurate). He suggested to use a regular board with a tape attached and a block of wood up front were the nose or mouth goes.
All this stuff can get out of hand.Who's to say
Maybe they should give THEIR rulers to everone.
I can just see that! Where does it end.
A measurement taken with the tape you have SHOULD DO IT.(I think I know what I'm trying to say).
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whs
except I propose the block of wood goes where the tail is rofla
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I have heard the same thing about the cooler numbers being off.
I had a measuring board made for me. When I had the ruler put on the board it is set to measure an 1/8 inch shorter than what the fish actually is. Thus, an 18 1/8" fish measures 18" on my board. ;D
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Always trying to say it's a little longer than it is hhppy hhppy hhppy hhppy hhppy hhppy hhppy hhppy
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Is it a short , is it fat, is it 1/8 inch longer ,is it legal,is it a keeper.
Fishing almost sounds like that other sport.
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i say catch a fluke in ny fillet it in ny and if boarde coast guard cant tell the size of fish since it is fillted and then be happy and eat in good old nj
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Can't fillet at see and if you strip one for bait the rack with top/brown side must be intact so even if you cut a 30" fluke and dumped the rack over you'll be getting a ticket.
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rgmn rgmn rgmn
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I think we have found Ruggy's heir....
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rofla rofla hhppy
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