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Offline bugmannj

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Help settle a dispute
« on: September 16, 2009, 06:27:30 PM »
The last time I was out fishing with a friend, He made comment about my manually closing the bail on my spinning reel. I told him I do this to save wear and tear on my equipment, and prevents line twist. He told me that I was foolish that the reel was designed to close the bail when engaged, and that one of the features of the reel was an anti-twist system. He said it was like having air conditioning in a car and not using it. Who's right?
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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 06:39:40 PM »
Bug u r right .I do the same .It saves the line. t^
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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 06:41:12 PM »
I'm on team manual.  Labor and bail flipping!  TT^
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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 06:57:25 PM »
i dont use a whole lot of spinning gear but when i do....i manually close the bail....just out of habit i guess....not sure if it saves the gear or not tho.
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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 07:08:45 PM »
I do it manually because it's quicker and It's just habit.

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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 07:17:52 PM »
Been doing it manually for years:easier and faster and more control.

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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 07:34:58 PM »
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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 07:44:12 PM »
it I am casting, then I will auto it.. if I am dropping and using my hand to feel the line down, then I manual it.  Both are correct. 
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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 07:58:24 PM »
Both are correct!

When I am casting lures, I close the bail by reeling in, mostly because I want the lure to start moving.  When I throw bait, I manually close the bail because I want the bait to stay where I put it.  Only exception is on my Penn Z Series Reels.  The bail locks open and has to be auto engaged to close.  A safety feature so that your bail can't accidentally close.

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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 08:08:32 PM »
I read somewhere.. that if using Power pro  manual closing is a must..
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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 08:29:07 PM »
I told Rod I would do an article on this a while back and haven't gotten around to it yet.  Don't worry, I'll get to it. ;D 

In any case, the answer (unless you own an old Mitchell or Penn greenie or Z series) is always flip it manuallyt^

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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 08:44:36 PM »
I am looking forward to reading the article!!


In any case, the answer (unless you own an old Mitchell or Penn greenie or Z series) is always flip it manuallyt^

You must work for Penn...since half of their reel series won't close unless you manually close them anyway ::) ;D.

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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 10:05:36 PM »
I'm looking forward to that article also.
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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2009, 10:09:44 PM »
I read somewhere.. that if using Power pro  manual closing is a must..

I would agree with that Rod.  I have PP on my Penn 710Z and can't manually close it and I always have to take the extra second and make sure the line is tight on the spool.  If I don't I get loops and knots rgmn.

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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 10:35:59 PM »
WoW....and the world record bass was on the penn 710 with 20 pound mono....just not sure how he kept heavy line like that on that type of reel on a windy night no less.....
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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2009, 10:58:17 PM »
WoW....and the world record bass was on the penn 710 with 20 pound mono....just not sure how he kept heavy line like that on that type of reel on a windy night no less.....

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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2009, 12:22:27 AM »
I have always manually flipped my bails as that is the way I was taught years ago.  And now that I use PP exclusively it is second nature to manually flip.
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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2009, 09:30:12 AM »
I flip manually as well...just a habit

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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2009, 12:40:28 PM »
With braided and superlines, manually closing the bail is better as you can make sure the line is sitting corectly and avoid tangles/wind knots.  Best bet is to cast, manually close bail and then a quick pull against drag to make sure the line is sitting where it's suppose to.  Becomes second nature after awhile.

Of course if you use bail-less reels, it's always manual ;)
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Re: Help settle a dispute
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2009, 02:35:39 PM »
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