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DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« on: February 13, 2010, 07:35:29 PM »
I am planning to fish in 120feet of water this spring on the shark river reef.

Is 600 feet each in two barrels enough? Do i use 2 danforths, what weight?

Can i assume that in low wind conditions I can grapple into these wrecks

Anyone have any info on the shark river reef
Thanks
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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 07:49:26 PM »
This is a good topic Ross..   I am very good at.....  Watching others do it ;D

Hopefully someone can put this procedure into text t^
« Last Edit: February 13, 2010, 07:49:49 PM by Hotrod »




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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 07:54:22 PM »
You don't mention the size of your boat. For a small boat of 25' in optimum condions it might. I use to always carry 1000' to anchor in the Mud Hole near Monster's Ledge including 20'of heavy chain.but only with a single anchor for depths of over 200'. More would be better if you have room for it !

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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 08:24:50 PM »
I think thats enough. If I remember correctly I read somewhere that the minimum about of scope you want for anchoring is 3x your depth. I use either an 18 or 22lb anchor for my 28ft. I recommend the use  of 15 to 20ft of chain. A grappling hook might work and I would only use it if the seas are flat. I've seen people use them on the GSN Reef which is between 65 to 80ft. 
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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2010, 08:32:37 PM »
If I remember hearing this correctly,

About 20-30' of chain, and if the water is 120 feet deep, you would want at the very least double that in 1 barrel/on a single anchor. So that puts you at the bare minimum of 240 feet. If I read your post correctly, you'll have 360 feet of extra line in your barrel. Total amount on both lines that should be in the water (at minimum) would be 480 feet, 240 on each anchor line. This doesn't take the chain into consideration, but what's 20-30 feet between friends?

Unfortunately I don't know any information on the shark reef, danforths or weights, nor can I explain this any further. This is just information I picked up from a captain not too long ago.

I hope this helps, and I wish you the best of luck.

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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2010, 09:04:55 PM »
my scope is minimum 5 x the depth....20 ft depth = 100 ft scope. the last thing you want is to have a big wave pull that bow straight down in deep water.
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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2010, 10:39:09 PM »
Hey Capt Ross.

120 foot of water = 360 foot of line plus a min of 15' chain for 13 lb. anchor for 25' boat.

That is a minimum...

I have 600' twice for 2 anchors, plenty of flexibility here...
 

At a minimum the first anchor you drop needs to be almost double the length of your drop to properly deploy your second anchor. You will need to put extra in the water for your second drop and then will retrieve it.

Patients is key, I still give into that on occasion!

Hands down two anchors is the best way to fish any structure and accurately cover or hold ground!

Toss the grapple out the window as your only way to fish, there is a time place and condition that dictates use and effectiveness for a grapple. Yes you can get the job done with one but not as effective with 2.

I hope this helps!
« Last Edit: February 13, 2010, 10:44:17 PM by Capt. Mike »


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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2010, 11:12:52 PM »
Jawz, I never heard the term "Rock Hook" what is that and how do you lay it out: chain or no chain,shacles  etc ? Is it like a grapple or wreck anchor?
 Thanks in advance for your reply.

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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2010, 07:38:38 AM »
pretty good explanation of setting up on two :

Bridling With Two Anchors

This is the undisputable champ when it comes to anchoring over a wreck. However, many people don't want to invest in two anchors or the line needed to lay two anchors. If you can, I recommend this technique over all others.

In order to lay two anchors, pull up to your marker and allow the boat to drift about 50 yards with the wind and current; head back to the marker, noting the compass heading. When you reach the marker, turn about 45 degrees to port. Travel about three to four times the depth of the water and drop the first anchor. Now, turn the boat and head back to the marker, being careful not to run the anchor line over. Once you have reached the marker, head about 45 degrees to starboard from the initial compass course that you wrote down, still paying out line on the other anchor. Travel another three to four times the water depth and drop the second anchor.
Boat on bridle

Now for the tricky part: head back to the marker, paying out line on the second anchor and taking in on the first. When you get back to the marker, come tight on both lines and you should be right on top of the wreck.
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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2010, 10:43:56 AM »
Okay. Basically its what we call our Wreck anchor. We also strap wire tie the other end for easy out in the rocks or wreck.  t^

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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2010, 11:56:46 AM »
The pic that Jawz posted looks the one they call mighty mite. I went to the ocean wreck divers flea market today and got a nice wreck anchor for $20.
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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2010, 02:40:10 PM »
I have the same one that Jawz posted a pic of. Great anchor.  t^ Works like a charm when conditions permit.

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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2010, 02:50:22 PM »
I USED to have that exact same anchor. It hooked up so good to the Pinta wreck that it's still there.  thud  rgmn rgmn rgmn
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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2010, 04:38:51 PM »
i never double anchor.a very good capt i know,he never double anchors either-"capt robbins",capt mike


 No doubt about it Capt Mike is  one of the best, but don't forget that Blinky  will also have to readjust his bite 10 to 20 times as he lays on the hook. Neil never put a hammer head for doulble anchoring  because he did not have to. He was a seabass boat and the swing on a single hook was very good for tackle sales ;D.

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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2010, 05:40:28 PM »
I'm pretty sure they put a double anchor rig on Capt Robbins two or three years ago. Capt Mike still won't double anchor though. He is good at what he does.  t^
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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2010, 08:50:22 PM »
I USED to have that exact same anchor. It hooked up so good to the Pinta wreck that it's still there.  thud  rgmn rgmn rgmn

whats the reward if i return it to u joe?
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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2010, 08:51:41 PM »
How's dinner sound?  I can give you the numbers where it is.  ;D
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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2010, 07:15:33 AM »
 rofla

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Re: DOUBLE ANCHORING OVER WRECKS
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2010, 07:36:41 AM »
 ;D
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