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Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« on: April 07, 2011, 09:30:34 AM »
This is part 1. Parts 2 and 3 to be released shortly.

See Part 1 for yourself at the following link:


(Be sure to check out the "Description" area under ther video for additional information).

Also, please...


Join "Reef Rescue" in PROTEST to...


Give Us Back Our Reefs!


When:
April 9, 2011
April 23, 2011
April 30, 2011 - This date will end with a rally!


Time: 10:00 am


Where:
Legislative Office, District 1
21 North Main Street
Cape May Court House, NJ 08210


NJOA (CF) Council members supporting "Traps Off the Reefs" are:

- New Jersey Outdoor Alliance
- Reef Rescue
- NJ Council of Diving Clubs
- Jersey Coast Anglers Association
- NJ Trout Unlimited
- NJ Beach Buggy Association
- Hudson River Fishermen's Association
- Greater Point Pleasant Charter Boat Association
- Jersey Coast Shark Anglers
- Cape May County Party & Charter Boat Association
- NJ State Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs
- Hi-Mar Striper Club

Non Council Members supporting "Traps Off the Reefs":
- Saltwater Anglers of Bergen County
- The Regency Fishing Club
- Manasquan Fishing Club
- Sunrise Bay Anglers Fishing Club


- There are additional saltwater fishing, freshwater fishing, hunting and conservation groups that support "Traps Off the Reefs." The list will be updated on an ongoing basis.

Anthony P. Mauro, Sr

Chair
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Conservation Foundation
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Environmental Projects

"Preservation through conservation"

JOIN NJOA: http://www.njoutdooralliance.org/support/njoa.html


Officers: Ed Markowski, Captain Pete Grimbilas, Jerry Natale, Len Wolgast, PhD., Anthony Mauro



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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 10:43:03 AM »
Nice Video.  But If we "Get the pots off the reefs".  What's stooping them from Surrouding the reef.. And catching ALL the fish before they even get to "Our Reef"
  
Have you guys thought of a compromise?  Give them a Section?

« Last Edit: April 07, 2011, 11:09:08 AM by Hotrod »




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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 10:54:37 AM »
Nice Video.  But If we "Get the pots off the reefs".  What's stooping them from Surrouding the reef.. And catching ALL the fish before they even get to "Our Reef"

They have the option of doing just that.  Had they been doing that we would not need this legislation.  The reefs have become breeding grounds for fish as well as habitat.
  
Have you guys thought of a compromise?  Give them a Section?

We offered our help in the creation of “commercial artificial reefs”, and were refused.  Dividing up the existing reefs violates Sport Fish Restoration Program regulations.

« Last Edit: April 07, 2011, 11:09:56 AM by Hotrod »

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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 11:08:36 AM »
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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2011, 12:47:19 PM »
That is a valid point Rod, the commercial guy's can simply put their gear next to the reef. fcp Legislation would then need to be created (or rewrite what is now being proposed),to exclude the traps within a set distance from the reef sites.

We must also keep in mind that out of the current 15 NJ reef sites, only 2 are located within NJ State waters, the remaining 13 are in Federal waters, and thus, state laws would not protect those sites one bit.

It needs to start somewhere, and if we reclaim only 2 out of 15 reef sites, I guess we can always start a Vigilante type movement, and add rope cutters to our fishing gear. >:D   
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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2011, 12:51:30 PM »
As I understand it, NJ must have regs in effect first, then they go to the feds to have the pots removed from the reefs in federal waters.

As far as cutting lines, I know where you're coming from Darren, but that would not serve our purpose. That would only produce abandoned pots which will continue to kill fish on a daily basis. Not a good thing. Besides it being illegal.  ::)
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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 12:57:39 PM »
Let me clarify that. It would be needed to cut any rope that becomes tangled in the prop. If commercial fisherman started loosing tens of thousands of dollars in gear, someone would most likely get shot out there on the reefs.  smk  <'((((><
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2011, 01:17:08 PM »
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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2011, 03:15:04 PM »
For the record. I am Against Posts On Our Reefs.

But isn't it true. We made these reefs in Locations that the Commercial guys have been fishing for years before we took it over?

How do we intend on fighting that argument from them.

And what was their interest when these reefs were created?

« Last Edit: April 07, 2011, 03:17:26 PM by Hotrod »




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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2011, 09:41:56 PM »
Good point Rod.
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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2011, 09:15:21 AM »
For the record. I am Against Posts On Our Reefs.

 Thank you for your support.


But isn't it true. We made these reefs in Locations that the Commercial guys have been fishing for years before we took it over?

So they claim.  There is no empirical proof to their statements. 

How do we intend on fighting that argument from them.

And what was their interest when these reefs were created?

It is a big ocean out there and they have 99.7% of the rest of it to fish on.

They were consulted in the formation of the reefs and in the creation of the State’s Reef Plan.  Any time the State has placed material on the reefs, all commercial trap (both fish & lobster) license holders are notified to remove their gear.  Here is the latest example:

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/news/2011/reefconcrete4-11.htm

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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 10:21:05 AM »
Q & A Release #3: Ocean Reef Economics and Public Access

Thank you for your interest in learning more about how New Jersey’s ocean reefs are being used inappropriately.

It’s important to realize that as with public parks, the ocean reefs belong to all of us – regardless of whether or not we use them. Therefore, it is wrong for commercial interests to profit from a public trust (our State-built reefs) while restricting public access. Just as it would be wrong for a business to establish a manufacturing plant on a public park and restrict public access.

You can use the link that follows to send a prewritten letter requesting that bill A-1152 be heard in the Assembly, which allows for public access (hook and line, and spear fishing) to ocean reefs as intended by the Federal Sport Fish Restoration Program. "Give Us Back Our Reefs!

http://capwiz.com/njoutdooralliance/issues/alert/?alertid=36620501&PROCESS=Take+Action



Q) What is the goal of New Jersey's Reef Program?

A) NJ's ocean reefs are similar to public parks; open to everyone's use, as long as they are used with the appropriate fishing gear. According to the Federal Sport Fish Restoration Program the appropriate fishing gear is hook and line, and spear. This type of gear does not impede access for those who want to use the reefs, as do commercial fixed (traps) gear.

The goal of New Jersey's Reef Program, according to the State's Reef Management Plan, is as follows: "Department of Environmental Protection's (DEP) goal in both constructing and managing reefs is to spread the benefits of the reefs among as many people as possible. To accomplish this goal, DEP may have to restrict or discourage uses of reefs that foster an inequitable share of either the fisheries resources or access to the resource being taken or dominated by a small group of people."

There are less than 20 trappers now dominating reefs, and they restrict public access by setting thousands of traps tethered to miles of connecting ground ropes.

Q) How valuable are ocean reefs to NJ's recreational fishing industry?

A) According to a national survey, New Jersey's recreational marine fishing industry adds approximately $1.3 billion annually to the state's economy, which provides employment to 10,000 people and generates more than $100 million in state sales taxes.

We do not have an exact percentage of the amount that reefs contribute to $1.3 billion total, but reefs are critical to the total catch of party boats, charter boats and private boat anglers. In fact, a DEP study from 2000 established that recreational anglers caught over 4.7 million fish on NJ reefs. This catch represents 18 percent of the total recreational catch in all of the State's salt waters. If we were to view the productivity of reefs in comparison to the total industry at a proportion similar to the catch, the economic impact is potentially upwards of $200 million annually.

Q) How important are reefs to scuba divers in New Jersey?

A) During the past 25 years more than 170 ships and barges of all types, from 44-foot patrol boats to 460-foot Navy ships, have been sunk on New Jersey reefs. Most scuba diving is focused on thousands of wrecks scattered along the Jersey coast. In 2000, the DEP found that 62 percent of private boat dive trips and 33 percent of all charter trips were on reefs. The advantage of diving reefs is that there are many wrecks and other structures in confined areas, which makes for easier access.

Q) Why is it important to eliminate traps from reefs as compared to other ocean areas?

A) Outside of coastal bays and the proximity of inlets, recreational fishing activity is far more concentrated on reef sites than other areas of the ocean. Individual reef sites often have hundreds of recreational boats fishing on them. To accommodate as many boats as possible, reef structures are spread out to form drift fishing areas. Large numbers of trap lines, stretched across reef sites, interfere with drift fishing by snagging rigs and anchors. This not only discourages use of the reefs but is also costly to recreational users because of the amount of gear that is lost. It is also the recreational user that pays for the reefs through an excise tax on recreational gear..

(NOTE: Answers provided by Bill Figley, retired Coordinator, NJ Artificial Reef Program and Anthony Mauro, Chair, New Jersey Outdoor Alliance)


Also, please...


Join "Reef Rescue" in PROTEST to...


Give Us Back Our Reefs!


When:
April 9, 2011
April 23, 2011
April 30, 2011 - This date will end with a rally!


Time: 10:00 am


Where:
Legislative Office, District 1
21 North Main Street
Cape May Court House, NJ 08210


NJOA (CF) Council members supporting "Traps Off the Reefs" are:

- New Jersey Outdoor Alliance
- Reef Rescue
- NJ Council of Diving Clubs
- Jersey Coast Anglers Association
- NJ Trout Unlimited
- NJ Beach Buggy Association
- Hudson River Fishermen's Association
- Greater Point Pleasant Charter Boat Association
- Jersey Coast Shark Anglers
- Cape May County Party & Charter Boat Association
- NJ State Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs
- Hi-Mar Striper Club

Non Council Members supporting "Traps Off the Reefs":
- Saltwater Anglers of Bergen County
- The Regency Fishing Club
- Manasquan Fishing Club
- Sunrise Bay Anglers Fishing Club


- There are additional saltwater fishing, freshwater fishing, hunting and conservation groups that support "Traps Off the Reefs." The list will be updated on an ongoing basis.

Anthony P. Mauro, Sr

Chair
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Conservation Foundation
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Environmental Projects

"Preservation through conservation"

JOIN NJOA: http://www.njoutdooralliance.org/support/njoa.html



Officers: Ed Markowski, Captain Pete Grimbilas, Jerry Natale, Len Wolgast, PhD., Anthony Mauro

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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2011, 09:22:51 PM »
 
Video release #2: Give Us Back Our Reefs!
 
ReefRescue's GIVE US BACK OUR REEFS! Video #2 of a 3 part series. A picture may tell 1000 words but you'll learn the entire story from these videos.
 
Here's video #2:

 
Did you miss part 1? See it at the following link:
 

 
Write your legislator!
People can use the link that follows to send a prewritten letter requesting that bill A-1152 be heard in the Assembly, which allows for public access (hook and line, and spear fishing) to ocean reefs as intended by the Federal Sport Fish Restoration Program.

http://capwiz.com/njoutdooralliance/issues/alert/?alertid=36620501&PROCESS=Take+Action

 
 
Join "Reef Rescue" in PROTEST to...

Give Us Back Our Reefs!

When:
April 23, 2011
April 30, 2011 - This date will end with a rally!

Time: 10:00 am

Where:
Legislative Office, District 1
21 North Main Street
Cape May Court House, NJ 08210

           
NJOA (CF) Council members supporting "Traps Off the Reefs" are:

- New Jersey Outdoor Alliance
- Reef Rescue
- NJ Council of Diving Clubs
- Jersey Coast Anglers Association
- NJ Trout Unlimited
- NJ Beach Buggy Association
- Hudson River Fishermen's Association
- Greater Point Pleasant Charter Boat Association
- Jersey Coast Shark Anglers
- Cape May County Party & Charter Boat Association
- NJ State Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs
- Hi-Mar Striper Club


Non Council Members supporting "Traps Off the Reefs":

- Saltwater Anglers of Bergen County
- The Regency Fishing Club
- Manasquan Fishing Club
- Sunrise Bay Anglers Fishing Club
- Village Harbour Fishing Club
- Penn-Jersey Saltwater Anglers
- Absecon Saltwater Sportsmen
- Saltwater Anglers of South Jersey
- Forked River Tuna Club
 
 - There are additional saltwater fishing, freshwater fishing, hunting and conservation groups that support "Traps Off the Reefs." The list will be updated on an ongoing basis.


Anthony P. Mauro, Sr
 
Chair
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Conservation Foundation
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Environmental Projects       
     
 
"Preservation through conservation"
 
 
JOIN NJOA:  http://www.njoutdooralliance.org/support/njoa.html
 
 
Officers: Ed Markowski, Captain Pete Grimbilas, Jerry Natale, Len Wolgast, PhD., Anthony Mauro   
 
 

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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2011, 10:57:22 PM »
Great second video. 



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Re: Now you can see it for yourself - on Video!
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