“I suggest we ask the Christie administration to develop a protocol to allow the RP (Reef Program) to accept public donations and then spend them to build reefs. How can anyone be vs. the public willingly supporting reef construction? Once a protocol is developed, transfer the $$ in the Sportfish Fund to NJOA's environmental account. All such funds would be solely dedicated to reef projects directed by the Division, of course.By being the repository of funds and participating in the funding process, NJOA could take credit for its involvement in this very popular program with saltwater anglers. This achievement would provide NJOA with a new dimension, not only is NJOA fighting for sportsmen's rights, but it is also participating in creating more fish habitat and places to fish. Every time a new reef is built, NJOA could issue a news release explaining where the $$ came from.”
In 2007 state auditors stopped the DEP from selling books and T-shirts to raise money for reefs, or accepting money from the Sport Fish Fund, until a protocol was developed so that the DEP could direct reef plans without being directly involved in handling money or contracts for placing ships and material on the reefs, according to people familiar with the program.
It doesn't appear to be a power struggle, it apprears to be one organization trying to take over what once was a successful program.
I don't see why the state auditors would find a need to change something that has been working so well for so long.Hmmm, just happens to be the same year that NJOA started up. Coincidence?
The NJOA was only started in August of 2007 to battle the politicians who were trying to politicize the NJ Fish and Game Council and in four months were thoroughly successful in their efforts.
The Restriction of Political Campaign Intervention by Section 501(c)(3) Tax-Exempt OrganizationsUnder the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.
"DEP officials say the agreement is no secret. “Reef Rescue and Outdoor Alliance approached us about helping out ... but the Clark Foundation and any group can participate,” DEP spokesman Larry Hajna said in an email.
“We welcome and encourage the support and participation of any and all groups and encourage them to participate under the MOU.”
Quote from: njdiver on May 22, 2011, 02:51:05 PM"DEP officials say the agreement is no secret. “Reef Rescue and Outdoor Alliance approached us about helping out ... but the Clark Foundation and any group can participate,” DEP spokesman Larry Hajna said in an email.However, the Anne Clarke Foundation itself says that it CANNOT participate under the current version of the MOU. DEP does not speak for the foundation and neither do I, this comes straight from the mouth of the Trustees.
Ignore the other posts all you like, but TAKE A LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE MOU.
Quote“We welcome and encourage the support and participation of any and all groups and encourage them to participate under the MOU.”And therein lies a major issue. "Any and all" should not be words used for the reef program in the opinions of many people I have spoken to, including major contributors to the reef program in the past. KEEP THE POLITICS AND POLITICAL AFFILIATIONS OUT OF THE PROCESS!!!
It has worked for DECADES that way, making NJ the location of one of the premiere reef programs in the country. To allow politics and parochialism into the actual conrol of monies is a major step BACKWARDS for the program.
Time for this process to be 100% open to the public, which it has NOT BEEN to date. Even YOU njdiver have complained to me personally about being shut out of certain aspects of the discussions, not able to get current copies of the language yadda yadda.
Open, non-political, strictly for the general public with a neutral third party (and NOT the state of course) handling the money.
The lights are on, time to step out of the shadows with this program. Neither UB nor RFA wants anything to do with handling or controlling monies in any way, shape or form for the reef program other than if we donated money ourselves, and even then we want it to go to a non-affiliated third party. So far the NJOA and its affiliated groups have made no such statements and their actions have shown them to be interested in the exact opposite.
Prove that it has been removed. Post the documents that prove it and the URLs so eveyone can see them.
As to parochialism, if a donor cannot direct where the item(s) they are donating, or paying to clean and tow, are to be placed, within the regulations, why donate?
Three out of four I agree with, as does the MOU. The “general public” doesn’t know or care about our artificial reefs.
I assumed everyone understood my point, sorry you missed it.
Quote from: CaptTB on May 22, 2011, 07:49:04 PM I assumed everyone understood my point, sorry you missed it. I’m sure we all know that specious definition of “ass-u-me-d”.
That is your response? Wow, I am disappointed. Hope that did not take you too long to come up with
Please keep your day job!
By the way, the current language in the 2/22/11 document reads as follows (a portion of it that is)c) NPO shall use the Reef Account in compliance with State and federal law and shall not use it to engage in and support political activities. d) NPO shall comply with the definition of an exempt organization as defined in Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954 as amended and comply with all provisions of said Code and regulations promulgated thereunder in order to maintain said exempt status. NPO shall also provide annual documentation to the Bureau to verify its status as an exempt organization as defined in Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954 as amended. e) NPO shall maintain complete and adequate financial records that will allow it to prepare financial statements in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles for all donations and expenditures. NPO shall provide the Bureau with an annual financial report prepared by a Certified Public Accountant licensed to practice accounting in the State of New Jersey setting forth all Reef Account receipts, revenue, donations and expenditures. Annual financial reports for the calendar year shall be provided to the Bureau by January 31 of the following year. In addition, the NPO shall provide interim financial reports showing Reef Account receipts, revenue, donations and available funds, at any given time, within 30 days of receiving the request from the Bureau. Nothing in this language would prevent what the original language was meant to, at least in part, prevent. NJOA has its own non PAC as do other organizations. Same group, just the technicality that is all the law is concerned with. The current MOU language would allow a typical political move. "It's not us, it is a separate entity...." (that just happens to be controlled by us)I won't bother being more specific, even you should be able to read between those lines without too much difficulty.
Quote from: njdiver on May 22, 2011, 08:05:04 PMPlease keep your day job! Again I ask, that is your response?? I posted precisely what you asked for and yet nothing of substance from you, just snide remarks?I am again disappointed.
As the IRS definition of what a 501(c)3 is allowed, when it comes to influencing politics, is posted above I will let it speak for itself. They are not prohibited from influencing a politician or either’s constituents to further their mission. As continually demonstrated by all the E-NGOs spending non-taxed 501(c)3 millions on their anti fishing campaigns.By the way I have seen public records that a certain fishing advocacy group has the exact same makeup as one which you are vilifying.
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