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Offline Offshore Madness

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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2011, 04:54:14 PM »
You have 12 gallons of oil? Or 6 gallons of oil
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2011, 05:45:47 PM »
You have 12 gallons of oil? Or 6 gallons of oil
6 gallons total...
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2011, 05:48:35 PM »
sorry.. correction needs to be made, i worded it wrong.  I pay $70 per container, but each container is 2/12 gallons.  But, I have 2 tanks for each engine at about 3 gallons each.. so $140  to fill up is a closer, realistic statement.

And yes, down in Toms River, it was exactly $1.00 more for gas on the water.

Gotcha Nick. That's a hell of a price they get for fuel where you are. Sucks. As I said, about thirty five cents a gallon over street price where I get mine.

OM, I think that should be 2 1/2 gallon container and not 2/12 gallons. Which would make it about $28 a gallon which would put it in the right ball park.  t^
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2011, 06:28:45 PM »
gas at my marina was 4.20 last time i fueled up 3 weeks ago
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2011, 07:06:45 PM »
Wow, And I am complaining that I paid #3.81 a gallon this past Tuesday.
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2011, 08:04:06 PM »
this is how my 30ft searay costs me in a slip and then stored and blocked at the marina

slip: 3000 with shore power
Winter storage with winterization and drive removals: 2000

ins: 360 per year

so just over 5 thousand invested and thats without taking it out a single time or having a single repair

id say on the side of caution a boat my size with cost you 10k per year with taking it out regularly and having no MAJOR repairs




wow..10k a year IS alot. crunching those numbers to get past the female "c.f.o." may be a challenge...
« Last Edit: October 20, 2011, 08:07:36 PM by rycher »
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2011, 08:06:13 PM »
You have 12 gallons of oil? Or 6 gallons of oil
6 gallons total...


 got ya 3 gallon per motor t^
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2011, 08:07:57 PM »
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OM, I think that should be 2 1/2 gallon container and not 2/12 gallons. Which would make it about $28 a gallon which would put it in the right ball park.  t^
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 That sounds better.... TT^
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2011, 08:08:52 PM »
While I uderstand the dual engine point of being safer and easier to steer..wouldnt 2 engines = 2x the upkeep etc.?
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2011, 08:10:29 PM »
We got fuel at wawa hwy 36. regular gas was 3.25 middle grade{89} was 3.35 a gallon. I looked at atlantic highlands it was 3.76 gas and 3.6x for diesel
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2011, 08:14:07 PM »
While I uderstand the dual engine point of being safer and easier to steer..wouldnt 2 engines = 2x the upkeep etc.?

 Yes it does.. two motors to tune up,do water pumps,wires,t-stats,gear case oil and ladalada.

 You have twice the power of one.  There for if u think about it if you go 3/4 throttle on a single engine yo would only 1/2 or less to do the same..
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2011, 08:47:04 PM »
While I uderstand the dual engine point of being safer and easier to steer..wouldnt 2 engines = 2x the upkeep etc.?

not that its the ultimate solution but no matter if you spend 5k or 50k when you go to purchase get the boat


SURVEYED SURVEYED SURVEYED  ;D

could save you a fortune in the long run
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2011, 09:29:47 PM »
While I uderstand the dual engine point of being safer and easier to steer..wouldnt 2 engines = 2x the upkeep etc.?
yes.. but some things are well worth it.  If you were in the barny bay.. single engine all the way.. When your fishing the hook, its all deep water with powerful undertow.  Its great having the control.  Your not getting speed, but your getting torq, stability and control.
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2011, 09:59:15 PM »
While I uderstand the dual engine point of being safer and easier to steer..wouldnt 2 engines = 2x the upkeep etc.?
yes.. but some things are well worth it.  If you were in the barny bay.. single engine all the way.. When your fishing the hook, its all deep water with powerful undertow.  Its great having the control.  Your not getting speed, but your getting torq, stability and control.


deffinately! loved my twins while anchoring on romers last time out so much more control keeping me where i wanted even when in the breakers
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2011, 05:42:24 AM »
 It all comes down to what you can afford.  slt


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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2011, 07:42:25 AM »
10k a year...anyone know of a bank with poor security and no lock on the safe????

or maybe a rich woman 90+yrs old looking for a beau.....
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2011, 07:44:03 AM »
10k a year...anyone know of a bank with poor security and no lock on the safe????

or maybe a rich woman 90+yrs old looking for a beau.....

 Welcome to boating!
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2011, 08:01:18 AM »
you could always trailer your boat to save on slip fees but that usually means smaller boat and less times out per year
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2011, 08:07:10 AM »
you could always trailer your boat to save on slip fees but that usually means smaller boat and less times out per year

no can do, my cars cant tow, and all the headache with launching, time,effort,storage space.

Ill just tell the kids no Disney trips..Dads got a boat !!!  >:D
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Re: First Boat Research / Info Needed
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2011, 09:53:10 AM »
It all comes down to what you can afford.  slt
Frank has said it all, with alot of good info posted above.
Owning a marine business and being a licensed Captain allows me to see it all, and am also on both sides of the fence with experience on ownership and maintainance.
When I bought my new boat, I was keeping in mind the what if scenario. What if I lost my job, gas prices went through the roof, and so on? Would I still be able to own and operate my 30k+ investment?
Think about all the above input from our members here. Costs add up quick.
My 20' Maritime Pioneer allows me to do most everything I ask and does it cheap. 90hp Honda 4 stroke is quiet, sips fuel, and requires little maintainance.
The boat is the most maintainance free boat I've ever owned, and it has a head and small child size bunks under the pilothouse. Its great in the bay and its been wreck fishing 15+ miles offshore and it holds ONLY 29 gallons of fuel.
I'll be more than glad to show the boat with an on the water cruise.
I don't agree on having to need 2 motors. With TowBoat/US and SeaTow, its not needed unless your running offshore on a consistent basis. 2 motors adds alot of extra expense in maintainance. Many boats up to 25' can be powered by a single outboard. Keep in mind re-sale value. A good used high end boat usually retains its value much longer, with some brands coming to mind as Grady White,Pursuit,Parker,Whaler, etc.
Keeping it simple, keepes the cost down.
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