2012 Fluke regs...here are some of the options.....

[Capt. Carl]

Below are the summer flounder measures approved by the ASMFC Board for 2012.   This is what will be discussed at next weeks NJMFC Advisors meeting.  Remember not all these options might be put forward and there could be other options presented.
New Jersey 2011 Harvest Target: 1,335,000 fish 2011 Landings: 787,234 fish 2012 Harvest Target: 1,090,407 fish Alteration for 2012: 38% liberali,,,zation 2011 Regulations: Minimum Size: 18� Possession Limit: 8 fish Open Season: May 7-September 25
Proposed 2012 Measures: Option Min Size, Bag Limit, Open Season Liberalization %

1.. 18 inch @ 8  fish...May 7 - September 25 0%
2... 18 inch @ 8 fish... April 28 - October 14 32%
3... 18 inch @ 8 fish....April 7 - September 23 32%
4....18 inch @ 8 fish.... May 5 - October 21 32%
5....17.5 inch @ 5 fish... May 5 - September 23 29%
6 ...17.5 inch @ 5 fish... April 29 - September 23 38%
7 ...17.5 inch @ 5 fish... May 5 - September 29 38%

Im good with 5,6 or 7....

[NJ Guy]

Ya know i really wouldnt mind 4 only because i really like the later fall season.


but i also agree 5,6,7 are good options

[Capt. Carl]

4?....... sept was bad enuf last year!....lol
How bout option 8....5 fish at 17.5 inches...no closed season
I didnt see that one on the list! 

[Pops Soul]

 

Ya know i really wouldnt mind 4 only because i really like the later fall season.


but i also agree 5,6,7 are good options

I really like that late season fluking

[Hotrod]

 5 6 and 7

[BigAl13]

#2 should be the winner 

[Hotrod]

1 thru 4  is great if you like to extend the time of catch and release.. with half of those becoming crab food..

[Bucktail]

4

[SurfJockey]

The later season of 2012 would have been good if "Irene" didn't come and screw it all up. 

2 or 4.....

[rdent5]

5 6 or 7!!!   must of caught over a 100 fluke last year at 17.5

[IKAT]

Below are the summer flounder measures approved by the ASMFC Board for 2012.   This is what will be discussed at next weeks NJMFC Advisors meeting.  Remember not all these options might be put forward and there could be other options presented.
New Jersey 2011 Harvest Target: 1,335,000 fish 2011 Landings: 787,234 fish 2012 Harvest Target: 1,090,407 fish Alteration for 2012: 38% liberali,,,zation 2011 Regulations: Minimum Size: 18� Possession Limit: 8 fish Open Season: May 7-September 25
Proposed 2012 Measures: Option Min Size, Bag Limit, Open Season Liberalization %

1.. 18 inch @ 8  fish...May 7 - September 25 0%
2... 18 inch @ 8 fish... April 28 - October 14 32%
3... 18 inch @ 8 fish....April 7 - September 23 32%
4....18 inch @ 8 fish.... May 5 - October 21 32%
5....17.5 inch @ 5 fish... May 5 - September 23 29%
6 ...17.5 inch @ 5 fish... April 29 - September 23 38%
7 ...17.5 inch @ 5 fish... May 5 - September 29 38%

Im good with 5,6 or 7....

NONE of the above--5,6,7, will get everyone there limit!! ( If you believe the 2,000,000 anglers that the fish was 17.9999999999---And I do-honest fishermen)  With the allocation lowered --will equal overfishing and limit reached buy Aug.1st.and close the season due to overfishing.

Now if you do believe in all these 17.9999 fish--no-one should have a problem getting
6 fish@18 inches this year.

OK beat me up on the post BUT-I for one had not seen many fish between 14 and 17 inches last year-wonder where they went .

6 fish@18 would be my choice.

And I will agree wit surfjockey--Irene had a lot to do with last year

[IrishAyes]

As IKAT said, none of the above.

No real need to debate what it should be as they will only rule on what is presented to them, the 7 choices from the list, and no other input will be taken at this point.

But with that said, I see no reason to have a closed season. After all, for the majority of the closed season you will not be fishing for or catching fluke anyway. No one fishes for fluke in Dec, Jan, Feb, March or April so why close it?  The times when the season is closed and you may catch a fluke, Oct and May, if it was open you would be able to harvest one or two that you may luck into and it would do very little harm to the population. So, what is the harm in keeping it open and having that warm, fuzzy feeling that they are doing something for us.

So, my ideal (?) regulation would be one at 17 1/2" and four at 18+.  You would then satisfy those who demand (rightly so) their one for the dinner plate and have a low chance of going over our quota.

[Capt. Carl]

Joe...i see u agree with my " option 8 "
Dennis...curious why you would decide to take a 2 fish bag reduction from the current regulations with no size limit adjustment?

[IKAT]

Joe...i see u agree with my " option 8 "
Dennis...curious why you would decide to take a 2 fish bag reduction from the current regulations with no size limit adjustment?

You Know why--8-18 inch fish is too too much for anybody----IF your coming back to fish again ?

This being said as 17.50 to 18.00 fish--My biggest concern is the people that TAKE these fish home and
never EAT them-just because they don't RESPECT the fishery. As a charter Capt. you know I respect you as to ---You will not let anyone overfish what they came for.

And as I said in my post the 2 fish reduction @ 18 should not hurt anyone--IFFFFFFF----ALL THOSE 17.99999999999999's are 18 now---AND if they survived??     

I wish there was a way to control how many fish EVERYONE TAKES--but it won't happen

You know how long I have been out of the water--AND I am sick to see carcauses of small fish in dumpsters as I have seen it the last --ONLY 2-years

On a final Note--It really erks me to talk to (SOME) people that I asked How did you do today--And the response I get is we limited out--and i ask how did you cook and eat them--AND the reply I get -is DON"T KNOW

The words TAKE WHAT YOU NEED--is long gone

Sorry for the rant!!!!

[Pops Soul]

But with that said, I see no reason to have a closed season. After all, for the majority of the closed season you will not be fishing for or catching fluke anyway. No one fishes for fluke in Dec, Jan, Feb, March or April so why close it?  The times when the season is closed and you may catch a fluke, Oct and May, if it was open you would be able to harvest one or two that you may luck into and it would do very little harm to the population. So, what is the harm in keeping it open and having that warm, fuzzy feeling that they are doing something for us.

Joe I think if they didn't close the season at some point then this would leave a door open for the commercial guys. Just my Thought

[SurfJockey]

Every year we say the same thing...All those 17.9's are gonna be legal next year.  Then next year comes, and YAY!, more 17.9's.   

[Hotrod]

As Capt. Birch Once said to me...  " If you closed Rabbit Season. That Doesn't mean you will have all 10lb Rabbits running around in a few years"

They know what they're doing.. anything to stop us from fishing

[hiking]

option #8 gets my vote. 5 fish @ 18 would be ok also.

[Capt. Carl]

 ...But...a few of those 17.9's will be able to go in the cooler if one would so choose with a size reduction! 

[Reckless]

 I would take any of them. I don't need 8 fish though.