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Offline baloo6969

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Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« on: April 29, 2012, 04:28:45 PM »


OK, So obviously you have to have a commercial license, but how much does it really cost per year (just in permits/licenses) to be able to catch and sell back tuna at the dock


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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 04:34:27 PM »
I bet theres more costs than just the licence probably not worth it unless your doing it everyday
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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 04:38:13 PM »
Got it.  Looking just from the perspective of how much it costs to be able to sell back your catch.

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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 02:31:59 PM »
Sounds like someone has been watching Wicked Tuna.
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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 03:40:41 PM »
Sounds like someone has been watching Wicked Tuna.

baloo call tricky dave hell tell you rofla
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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 09:22:13 PM »
Started to do some research on the selling and gave up.

Browse it if ya like:   

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/sfa/hms/Linkpages/permits.htm

Got frustrated reading through all the red tape!


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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 08:03:01 PM »
You must have the same 20 hours of Wicked Tuna on you DVR like i do!! any way to sell stripers?


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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 08:58:17 PM »
There is no commercial harvest of striped bass in NJ.  And that's the way it should  in all states. 

Offline baloo6969

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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 10:08:43 AM »
HAHA, no not from "Wicked Tuna"...Looking to make some money instead.

So far i see a 20$ permit at hmspermits.noaa.gov

I'm sure there are more...i just cant find them.


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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 01:52:39 PM »
Solas raft in a hard case with a hydrostatic release,survival suit for everyone on board,list of flares and other safety equipment,that's just the short list,permits,vessel trip reports, tax id number have to claim the income.commercial operators permit,is you boat big enough to hold ice and the catch.buy the time you get all the equipment your in the hole better catch a lot of tuna.plus we don't have a giant bluefin  fishery in NJ anymore.       

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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2012, 03:05:46 PM »
PRICELESS cfzd
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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2012, 04:29:43 PM »
Captain Rich thank you.

Yes.  Obviously there are upfront costs(Boat, lifesaving equipment, electronics, fishing gear, fuel, etc) and a laundry list of things you need…I’m looking at it from a cost perspective of what it costs to JUST sell your catch at the dock.

If I’m missing anything, let me know, and if you have other figures, please let me know too.
1. Become a business and have a Tax ID number: Of course there are tons of ‘other’ costs that come along with this, taxes, paperwork, etc.  I know nothing about this, but from what I see online to become an LLC is $200-300
2. Atlantic Tuna Angling Vessel Permits: Yearly permit, 20$.
3. Commercial operators permit: From what I see it’s renewed every 3 years, and is 0$.

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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2012, 04:46:40 PM »
Call your insurance carrier.  I bet you're rates go way up if you tell them the boat is being used for commercial purposes. 

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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2012, 06:08:46 PM »
For rod and reel its just the tuna permit.I'm not sure on vessel trip reports.

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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2012, 09:32:11 PM »
I think you have to have a valid captains license because you have to buy the charter headboat permit


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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2012, 09:53:53 PM »
Don't forget the camera, because we want to see photos of you selling your first Bluefin . t^
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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2012, 11:00:40 PM »
I think you have to have a valid captains license because you have to buy the charter headboat permit

YES!  Looks like i'm going to be digging a lot more.  thanks!

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Re: Selling back your tuna catch at the dock?
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2012, 11:30:36 PM »
Updated list of 'stuff' ha-ha, it's getting longer and longer!

If I’m missing anything, let me know, and if you have other figures, please let me know too.
1. Become a business and have a Tax ID number: Of course there are tons of ‘other’ costs that come along with this, taxes, paperwork, etc.  I know nothing about this, but from what I see online to become an LLC is $200-300
2. Atlantic Tuna Angling Vessel Permits: Yearly permit, 20$.
3. Commercial operators permit: From what I see it’s renewed every 3 years, and is 0$.
4. Increase in insurance.  This is hard to put a dollar amount too.  I would assume it would be increased by a factor of 2X at minimum.
5. Captains License : There are several costs associated to this.
-Physical : Depends on your insurance, mine is 20$/year.
-Drug Test : USCG requires this, and I cant tell what type they require.  A urine test is ~50$ while a hair test can be upwards of 500$(some mail in ones are less than 100$, but i'm sure the USCG wont approve them :) )
-AED, CPR, and First Aid Training : CPR/AED training and tests run ~100$.
-360 Days on the water with 90 days in the last 3 years : I cant put a $ value to this.  for someone with no time on water, there would be 2 options 1, work on a boat for 2-3 years, or own a boat for a year and fudge the #'s, which isnt realistic.  I'm sure it would raise a LOT of red flags.
-Pass the USCG Test or a Course given by an approved school : Most schools i see offer classes for $~1000 for a 6pack, or $~1500 for a masters class and test.

What else am I missing????

 

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