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Offline overbite

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Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« on: September 28, 2012, 11:26:53 AM »
 5hrug With 130 miles of Ocean coast line 1000s of SQ miles of Ocean Sandy Hook to Cape May. Not counting the Bays and rivers., and the fact that New Jersey is almost a Island. Can a spot be burned   ???.
My guess is yes when its a local one with limited access. As the Beach shore & surf season comes upon us. can one really burn a spot with Bait shops making reports some honest some not so honest as fishermen stating where they fished  fcp As i have many times. by just saying yea Port Monmouth. And with beach surf fishing The fish Hit and have moved on and the spot is new the next minute or day.
My feelings are when a area is constantly producing its  :-X  5hrug for sure . what say you.
I do see a open spot unless that guy is headed there smk
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« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 11:29:37 AM by overbite »


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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 12:24:00 PM »
Burning a spot.. lets see.. I can fish the same spot and not catch while someone else is.  I can fish on the same boat and catch while someone else isn't..   In saltwater, I don't think you can burn a spot.  The fish move in and out every day, actually every tide.  Maybe you can burn a specific spot off a wreck, but even at that, try to anchor in the same spot the same way twice in a row. 

I, for one, if I am catching and others aren't, I would gladly lead them to where the bite is at that moment.  The ocean is big, there are a ton of fish, plenty to share and we are all fisherman on the same team, so sharing the sport as well as the spots are OK with me.
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 12:34:49 PM »
 :headscra:...Salmon River?.. :-X...I don't beleive you can burn a spot. To try and get two or three boats on the same drift....Yea right, and I too would call someone in if I was catching and they were not....Gas is way too much to drive around searching when you fish alone like I do...... chrz
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2012, 12:44:00 PM »
At NJSWF "spot burning" is welcomed. We are sportsmen and sportswomen, fishers and a brotherhood. That's how I see this site. I'm pushing 60 so in my day fishers would not withhold honest information. OK, if you are a trout fisherman and you found a deep hole in a stream off the beaten path that's one thing, but a surf fisherman or a boater? No.
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2012, 01:49:15 PM »
 nosmly on the spot burns.

In monmouth county there are few spots and few secrets. Ocean has much more room until you start giving people a reason to travel further south, i.e. IBSP last Thanksgiving weekend. I like my privacy
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2012, 02:23:07 PM »
I don't think you can spot burn either.  I see other sites where it is against the rules and they will ban you if you don't give a location as Northern Ocean County or Southern Monmouth County...get real smk!  Would I expect someone to give away a favorite honey hole or coordinates on a favorite ocean spot, NO...but live posting of a blitz going on in the surf at A8 in IBSP or just outside of the Shark River Inlet, is not spot burning.  First of all, you have to expect when the fish are there, so will everyone else.  When the fish aren't there, you have to work a little harder for them.  On the beach, structure can change daily, especially in Fall into Winter Seasons.  One hole with a nice cut one day, is full of sand the next!  As for freshwater fishing, giving a lake or river you are fishing, is not spot burning either.

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2012, 02:51:49 PM »
Here is my take on the subject. I have no problem telling people I am friendly with a spot or two (one spot to me is sacred though). I won't always tell my technique or what caught but have no problem telling people what kind of bait is around. Back bay spots can be burnt to the ground. They are few and far between and usually have some unwelcoming home owners that do not want increased traffic. The ocean cant be burnt as bad since it has so many factors that affect the fishing. I put my leg work in to find productive places to fish so I expect the same from every other fisherman.  Finally I really don't like the idea of broadcasting spots over the Internet (burn able or not). If it was member only no big deal, but every asshat in the world looking to take shortcuts can view your reports and bring 10 of his noisy littering asshat friends every night until the neighbors complain and have the place shut down.
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2012, 02:57:51 PM »
Burning a spot.. lets see.. I can fish the same spot and not catch while someone else is.  I can fish on the same boat and catch while someone else isn't..   In saltwater, I don't think you can burn a spot.  The fish move in and out every day, actually every tide.  Maybe you can burn a specific spot off a wreck, but even at that, try to anchor in the same spot the same way twice in a row. 

I, for one, if I am catching and others aren't, I would gladly lead them to where the bite is at that moment.  The ocean is big, there are a ton of fish, plenty to share and we are all fisherman on the same team, so sharing the sport as well as the spots are OK with me.

I have walked away from my sacred spot knowing i can catch but refuse to if someone else can see me. I've seen this happen: get to a spot where someone else is, catch a fish right away while the other guy scratches his head. Come back the next night and the guy has 12 rods and two friends throwing everything they can think of. Now I could still step in and fish, but a lot of these back side spots are too small and morally I don't like mugging people out of their space if they are there first
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2012, 03:10:22 PM »
I have to agree with everyone.  Its not spot burning it is a angling informational.  Like it has been said here many times, times are rough and for many of us that are on fixed incomes monies are tight.  The less we have to guess where ti fish the better we are at coping with this economy.

I for one have not been out on the beach for most of this year simply because I can not justify the running around looking for the right place to fish and catch.

In the spring and fall now that is a different situation.  These seasons are the prime times to catch that elusive bass or just have fun wrestling with a huge 15 pound blue.

With the way this season is going it might be a good one again if the water temps stay higher than usual.  But, that might change as they are calling for colder that normal temps and well I hate to say it an earlier that normal snow season.

So if you don't like being told where the fish are or were biting you are at the wrong site my friend.  This site is all about friendships and learning.  I have made some awesome friends on here and if I can't tell them where I caught well lets just say the learning part has just been wasted.

I love to give my experiences away for free for as long as I can remember.  I have taught many people the ins and outs of fishing off the surf and telling them where it fish is just one aspect as long as they learn something out of it.

What can you learn from spot burning?  well, if there is more than one person posting you can gauge how fast the school or run is moving at that time and in the fall head further south to meet up with the school down the beach before anyone else is there.

Well that is my .25 (inflation).

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2012, 03:31:05 PM »
At NJSWF "spot burning" is welcomed.
 I wouldn't go that far.. ;D  maybe in a PM ;D  But then there is also " Location"  that is a little easier to burn..

If I ran into a lump offshore that held a lot of fish.  In no way... would post that Spot t^
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 04:15:58 PM by Hotrod »



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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2012, 04:00:34 PM »
Iagree with Rod. I spend a lot of time and gas marking little nooks and crannies on the reef that hold seabass, fluke and tog. I'll tell you the area but not the spot. I'm not sharing unless it reciprocated.

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2012, 04:26:42 PM »
I would tell fellow members here where I have caught through PM but never actually post exact locations. I understand and appreciate our community here, but these are not closed doors my friends, its the internet.
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2012, 05:22:44 PM »
Its not only burning a spot.....I have a couple docks I fish and can fish them any night and produce fish each and every time with my kayak.......But the docks that I'm fishing around belong to the people sleeping and who have boats around the docks.......I don't need others who dint respect the area or the people.....Lights being shined into the windows.....lures hitting the boats.....loud talking...... No thanks.... I love my fishing way to much...to lose what I have.

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2012, 06:04:47 PM »
At NJSWF "spot burning" is welcomed.
 I wouldn't go that far.. ;D  maybe in a PM ;D  But then there is also " Location"  that is a little easier to burn..

If I ran into a lump offshore that held a lot of fish.  In no way... would post that Spot t^

I would agree that there could be exceptions.
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2012, 06:12:34 PM »
Teach someone how to fish and they will become an angler. Tell someone where to fish and you will be picking up someone else's litter once word gets out.....and it always does. Loose lips sink ships
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2012, 06:38:40 PM »
Its not only burning a spot.....I have a couple docks I fish and can fish them any night and produce fish each and every time with my kayak.......But the docks that I'm fishing around belong to the people sleeping and who have boats around the docks.......I don't need others who dint respect the area or the people.....Lights being shined into the windows.....lures hitting the boats.....loud talking...... No thanks.... I love my fishing way to much...to lose what I have.

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I agree with you Kayak1

In the back bays and sod banks of south jersey--where people have SPOTS-and I have seen it--1-post on a forum can ruin a whole area-BUT only by the people that go there after seeing it and disregard the natural beauty of where people are fishing--This is by (not the people that are there )  But by the people that THINK they can go there and DISRUPT-what people have been doing for years.

The words SPOT BURNING  In my opinion should never be used--As it is the WORDS of people that go to these places( and NEVER fished there) and say-(I didn't catch nothing) and leave all there trash behind for the "locals" to clean up.

I will always give info-That I know to anyone on this forum.(not others)if I hear of a great place that is producing-But not on the forum-but through pms. ( if private areas)--not at all!!

We as fisherman-I hope will always do this.

This is what this site is all about--Helping each other!!!(AND DON"T GET ME WRONG)--I will never tell anyone of my friends place-that lives on a Creek--he catches 5 bushells of crabs a day on his dock and tell you to go there)--That is WRONG!!!!


Sorry for the rant  thud

So as posted before on here--Here is HUNTER 2's Favorite SPOTS--in the Raritan bay-----(some mine too)

the only thing you don't know is
When
Tide
Bait
moon
time
season
who your with (REALLY BIG)
what fish
etc
etc
etc

Like what was said--I can fish on the same boat next to someone--same bait--I get nothing and the person next to you catches everything

Below  SPOTS IN tHe Raritan
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2012, 07:09:10 PM »
If you think you are not spot burning then you are not fishing. Unless you are invisible everyone and their brother knows where you are/were fishing, especially if you post a good fishing day.

Name on the side of your boat, spot burn. 'Oh, there's so and so, he posted yesterday that he had a good catch, let's see where he's going.'

Impossible not to burn a spot if people know you are catching. Watch the Fish Monger when he is out, he usually had a couple of tails on him all day. He moves, two or three boats move with him. Same happens with TNT, Tom moves, the armada is with him. Watch the party boats, same thing happens.

Gotta get me one of those invisible boats so nobody sees where I fish.  TT^
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2012, 07:17:00 PM »
Hey......I look at it this way....You send a kid to school to learn....and if your always given them the answers on there home work.....They learn nothing.

Well if I keep telling people where to fish.....They will never learn HOW TO FISH

I have been fishing for over 40 years and can read the water....I know just the right place to cast the plug into the feeding zone of fish......This took years of walking the beach and paddling the back waters and a lot of lost sleep.

I see the same names on this site...Day after day......You guys know what I'm talking about.....You all put your time in the same school of fishing as me.

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2012, 08:06:26 PM »
If you think you are not spot burning then you are not fishing. Unless you are invisible everyone and their brother knows where you are/were fishing, especially if you post a good fishing day.

Name on the side of your boat, spot burn. 'Oh, there's so and so, he posted yesterday that he had a good catch, let's see where he's going.'

Impossible not to burn a spot if people know you are catching. Watch the Fish Monger when he is out, he usually had a couple of tails on him all day. He moves, two or three boats move with him. Same happens with TNT, Tom moves, the armada is with him. Watch the party boats, same thing happens.

Gotta get me one of those invisible boats so nobody sees where I fish.  TT^

Land based is different than boat fishing.But I've fished on tog boats that only go to their secret spots on foggy days. When I'm sneaking around the back bays. I park discretely, work under the cover of darkness, and pay attention to who (if anyone) is around me. Now my wife has the "find your iPhone" app and keeps threatening to post my locations on Facebook. My response is that i drop my phone off at another spot and pick it up on my way home  ;D  nts
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2012, 08:21:53 PM »
Geez, I'm so damn proud of having actually found some fish that I'm happy to tell anyone and everyone where it was hahaha!  Unfortunately I could probably burn alot more places NOT to fish than otherwise.   rofla
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