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Rod lure weight
« on: February 06, 2013, 05:13:50 AM »
How does lure weight relate to sinker weight? Or is there no relationship between the 2? Thanks!  :headscra:


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Re: Rod lure weight
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 08:27:57 AM »
went to a blackfish seminar and this topic came up.  the way it was explained (and made sense to me) was the "lure" weight on the rod is to indicate the size (weight) lures that are meant to be cast with the rod.  In other words don't think you are going to be throwing a 6 ounce lure on a rod built for 2 ounces all day.  However, he explained that if you are just dropping down and not casting it doesn't have much bearing on what size sinkers you are dropping.  hope i made sense.

two boat rods i use are rated for 1-4 ounces, seems 90% of the time i have anywhere from 6-10 ounces to hold bottom. never once had a problem.
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Re: Rod lure weight
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 08:33:22 AM »
That is correct. t^

The recommended lure weight, as printed on most rods, typically refers to what weights it can cast best.  If you are using the rod for bottom fishing you can use much heavier sinkers.

For example, my Loomis Musky rod is rated for lures up to 2 oz.  I have found that I can effectively cast (overhand) plugs up to around 3 oz. and pitch (underhand) jigs up to around 6 oz.  However, for bottom fishing, it easily handles sinkers up to 10 oz., although I have used it with sinkers up to 16 oz. when needed.
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Re: Rod lure weight
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 09:25:28 AM »
Good topic. t^
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Re: Rod lure weight
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 10:24:37 AM »
Ok that makes sense.  Thanks!  Looking at sinker weight I guess you would look more of the action of a pole? M,MH,H etc.

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Re: Rod lure weight
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 01:53:25 PM »
action gets confusing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_rod

taken from that source:


Action
 
"Action" refers to the speed with which the rod returns to its neutral position. An action may be slow, medium, fast, or anything in between (e.g. medium-fast.) Contrary to how it is often presented, action does not refer to the bending curve. A rod with fast action can as well have a progressive bending curve (from tip to butt) as a top only bending curve. The action can be influenced by the tapering of a rod, the length and the materials used for the blank. Typically a rod which uses a glass fibre composite blank is slower than a rod which uses a carbon fibre composite blank.
 
Action, however, is also often a subjective description of a manufacturer. Very often action is misused to note the bending curve instead of the speed. Some manufacturers list the power value of the rod as its action. A "medium" action bamboo rod may have a faster action than a "fast" fibreglass rod. Action is also subjectively used by anglers, as an angler might compare a given rod as "faster" or "slower" than a different rod.
 
A rod's action and power may change when load is greater or lesser than the rod's specified casting weight. When the load used greatly exceeds a rod's specifications a rod may break during casting, if the line doesn't break first. When the load is significantly less than the rod's recommended range the casting distance is significantly reduced, as the rod's action cannot launch the load. It acts like a stiff pole. In fly rods, exceeding weight ratings may warp the blank or have casting difficulties when rods are improperly loaded.
 
Rods with a fast action combined with a full progressive bending curve allows the fisherman to make longer casts, given that the casted weight and line diameter is correct. When a casted weight exceeds the specifications lightly, a rod becomes slower, slightly reducing the distance. When a casted weight is slightly less than the specified casting weight the distance is slightly reduced as well, as the rod action is only used partially.

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Re: Rod lure weight
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 02:15:46 PM »
Good info slt!!


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Re: Rod lure weight
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2013, 02:52:55 PM »
The action of a blank is dependant on the taper of the blank. A fast action rod bend in the tip section and does not bend down into the handle. A fast action rod in very good for casting accurately because it makes a tight loop when the blank unloads during the forward cast.

From St Croix.

The “action” of a rod is determined by where a rod flexes along the blank. Faster action rods flex mostly near the tip. Moderate action rods flex more near the middle of the blank. Slower action rods flex down into the butt section.

The “power” of a rod refers to how much pressure it takes to flex the rod. Different rod powers are engineered to efficiently handle a certain range of lure weights and line sizes.


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Re: Rod lure weight
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2013, 04:37:08 PM »
 whs 5hrug Again its personal choice mostly learned from using diffrent rods., under different conditions. And change for Spinning and conventional. And even Fly Rods where wt. is very important to Line and flys used to type of fish,  Fresh to salt. More importantly for fresh water casting small lures. My choices are Conventional aboard a boat Pier drop casting ( Free Spool ) .And Spinning Surf and Pier Jetty. As many know Bait ( Meat ) is also my choice. Casting only when nessesary.   
Nevr was one to conform or follow the rules what works for you is just fine.
Had many still have them can't seem to throw them out.  some reels 50 or so old as are the Rods. some were crap but most ok to great.
Ask questions here but also ask someone Hay can I see and try that set up you have there. all they ca say is Go & ^(& . Plus it makes them feel they are doing it right.  slt


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Re: Rod lure weight
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2013, 04:59:08 PM »
Frank,

If you'd like to test out a few rods come on up to Brick one day.  Just let me know when you're coming.  I'm sure we can find one that will work for you. t^

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Re: Rod lure weight
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2013, 06:05:29 PM »
Just might have to do that Bob. Thanks!  slt

 

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