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Title: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Quadruplecccc on February 05, 2008, 07:51:25 AM
I WAS JUST INFORMED NJ. PASSED A LAW REQUIRING ANYONE LAUNCHING A BOAT IN NJ. WATERS MUST POSESS A BOAT LICENSE COSTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 100 TO 150 BUCKS!! HAS ANYONE HEARD OF ANY OF THIS? LAST YEAR I HEARD SOMETHING SIMILAR BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE A BOATERS SAFETY COURSE REQUIRED BY ALL NJ. RESIDENTS OPERATING A BOAT.    ??? ???
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: mboy on February 05, 2008, 07:54:54 AM
Nope. No license other then in freshwater and that is really just a tax. If you are only a saltwater user, you do not need a license. Do not pay for the boaters license if running in saltwater! Just need the safety cert.

Freshwater boaters license has been around for years, nothing new.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Quadruplecccc on February 05, 2008, 08:05:27 AM
ARE YOU SURE ON THIS BECAUSE THIS SUPPOSEDLY WAS JUST RELEASED.  NOT SURE HOW TRUSTWORTHY MY SOURCE IS AND NEED TO BE REASSURED !!! THANKS!!  CHUCK
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: IrishAyes on February 05, 2008, 08:06:15 AM
Here are some of the rules for NJ boaters.

http://www.boat-ed.com/abc/abc_specific_images/pdfs/nj_law.pdf
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: mboy on February 05, 2008, 08:06:21 AM
100-150 tells me that it is very likely I disagree.

Is this the same source that told you this last year?

Who is your source?
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: mboy on February 05, 2008, 08:07:25 AM
It would have to get passed in the state legislature and it would be public knowledge that something like that came up for a vote LONG before the actual vote.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: sealife on February 05, 2008, 08:20:24 AM
The boat endorsement on your drivers license is only required to opearte a power boat in noon-tidal waters.  You need a NJ boat safety certificate (BSC) to operate a motor vessel in any NJ water, tidal or non-tidal.  The boat endorsement on you driver license comes from the state motor vehicle.  Supposedly they will not issue this endorsement unless you have a BSC. As mentioned previously the boat endorsement as been around for years and had not requirement other than to pay the "tax".  The BSC is more recent and has been phased in over the past several years.  By June 1 of this year anyone born after Jan 1 1949 is required to have it.  June 1 2009 will require everyone regardless of age to have it.  It must be in your possession whenever you operate a motor vessel.  Most courses are $60 to $80 with the test at the end.  You can take the test out option without the course if you meet the requirements for $25.  Both options are available at many locations.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Quadruplecccc on February 05, 2008, 08:57:21 AM
THANKS EVERYONE !! YOU'VE ALL BEEN VERY HELPFUL. NOW I CAN GO BACK TO THIS GUY WITH THE RIGHT INFO AND TELL HIM TO HAVE HIS STORY STRAIGHT BEFORE HE FLAPS HIS GUMS AND WASTES MY TIME AND YOURS AGAIN!   ONCE AGAIN THANKS    CHUCK chrz
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on February 05, 2008, 10:09:36 AM
Supposedly they will not issue this endorsement unless you have a BSC.  By June 1 of this year anyone born after Jan 1 1949 is required to have it.  June 1 2009 will require everyone regardless of age to have it.  You can take the test out option without the course if you meet the requirements for $25.  Both options are available at many locations.

What if you have the boaters endorsement on your licence already.  I got mine years ago before you needed a test to take it.  Is it still valid or would I have to test to keep it.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: mboy on February 05, 2008, 10:42:18 AM
Their was never a test for it in the 1st place. It is just a tax. Plain and simple. If you don't use a boat in Freshwater, it is a waste of money.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: IrishAyes on February 05, 2008, 11:23:50 AM
Supposedly they will not issue this endorsement unless you have a BSC.  By June 1 of this year anyone born after Jan 1 1949 is required to have it.  June 1 2009 will require everyone regardless of age to have it.  You can take the test out option without the course if you meet the requirements for $25.  Both options are available at many locations.

What if you have the boaters endorsement on your licence already.  I got mine years ago before you needed a test to take it.  Is it still valid or would I have to test to keep it.

Luna, what you have on your license is only an endorsement.  That means you can operate a power boat in non-tidal waters in NJ.

The item that you test for is a Boating Safety Certificate.  It is NOT a license. 

They are two separate things.  The Boating Safety Certificate is mandatory for operating any power boat any where in NJ.  It also goes by birth year as to when you need to have this.  In 2009, everyone will need it.  This year, anyone born after 1949 needs it.

Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Wreckfish on February 05, 2008, 11:59:26 AM
When I went to DMV to renew my license this past November I needed to show a copy of my boaters safety certif to keep the boat endorsement on my license.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: IrishAyes on February 05, 2008, 12:13:15 PM
That is correct, Wreckfish.  Motor Vehicle will not put the endorsement on anymore without the Safety Certificate.

You need the Safety Certificate for the endorsement on your  license, but you don't need the endorsement on your license for the Safety Certificate.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on February 05, 2008, 12:20:42 PM
either way, i got my boating endorsement and my safety certificate...
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: IrishAyes on February 05, 2008, 12:24:04 PM
 TT^
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: mboy on February 05, 2008, 12:35:09 PM
either way, i got my boating endorsement and my safety certificate...


Do you use a boat in freshwater?

If not, you are wasting your $$ with the endorsment.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Ronster on February 05, 2008, 03:27:13 PM
The endorsement is cheap, so you might as well have it to go along with the safety certificate.   
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: mboy on February 05, 2008, 03:34:01 PM
The endorsement is cheap, so you might as well have it to go along with the safety certificate.   

Unless you NEVER boat in freshwater. Then you are wasting $$$$.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: NJJan on February 05, 2008, 09:33:06 PM
I took a course back in the early 90s, and recieved a card from the state that expired the day I got my drivers licence. The course was all saltwater based. I lost the card before I got my license, and forgot about it. Does anybody have any idea what that could have been?
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on February 05, 2008, 09:47:04 PM
The endorsement is cheap, so you might as well have it to go along with the safety certificate.   
I used to fish in Fresh water, so I got it years and years ago and just keep renewing it every year...
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: mboy on February 05, 2008, 10:12:28 PM
The endorsement is cheap, so you might as well have it to go along with the safety certificate.   
I used to fish in Fresh water, so I got it years and years ago and just keep renewing it every year...

Then you would be wasting your money every year.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: TurboDan on February 06, 2008, 10:43:11 PM
I took a course back in the early 90s, and recieved a card from the state that expired the day I got my drivers licence. The course was all saltwater based. I lost the card before I got my license, and forgot about it. Does anybody have any idea what that could have been?

That card was most likely the Safety Certificate, which is now required.  At one time, it was only required until age 16, so they had expiration dates on it - usually your 16th birthday.  Mine has that on it, in fact, since I got it when I was pretty young.  Now that the certificate is required, the expirations don't mean anything.

Call the State Police Marine Division and they can help you get a replacement card or at least tell you if you're still in the system, which you probably are.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Ronster on February 08, 2008, 10:16:02 AM
The endorsement is cheap, so you might as well have it to go along with the safety certificate.   
I used to fish in Fresh water, so I got it years and years ago and just keep renewing it every year...

Then you would be wasting your money every year.

If $4 a year for the endorsement on your license constitutes waste, then you are far more thrifty that you need to be.   ;)
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: mboy on February 08, 2008, 10:30:24 AM
$.04, $4 or $4,000. No reason to give it to the crook politicians in NJ if I don't have to.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: fishinfool on February 08, 2008, 10:46:12 AM
 whs
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Ronster on February 08, 2008, 12:18:25 PM
$.04, $4 or $4,000. No reason to give it to the crook politicians in NJ if I don't have to.

Touche.    ;D
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on February 08, 2008, 12:31:21 PM
$4.00 on every licence renewal...  4 year for you renew your licence.... That $1.00 a year to have that endorsement...  I throw a hell of alot more then that away... for a buck a year, knowing I can boat in freshwater whenever I want, isn't really a waste.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Ronster on February 08, 2008, 12:56:25 PM
$4.00 on every licence renewal...  4 year for you renew your licence.... That $1.00 a year to have that endorsement...  I throw a hell of alot more then that away... for a buck a year, knowing I can boat in freshwater whenever I want, isn't really a waste.

No, it is $4 per year, not $1.   The endorsement is $16 to your license, which is valid for four years.   

We definately share the same mindset on this matter. 
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: ped579 on February 08, 2008, 01:12:13 PM
 TT^

I have had mine for years only because I still have my Jon boat in the rafters of the garage and ya never know if I will do some FW fishing aagain.
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: Luna Sea 5 on February 08, 2008, 02:03:54 PM
Even at $4.00 per year... just like buying 1 beer at a bar, per year...  I even have my motorcycle licence endorsement that I don't use either.. WHY? you might ask....  BECAUSE ya never know when there will be a need for it... EXPECT the UNEXPECTED..  bngh
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
Post by: ped579 on February 08, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
 TT^
Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
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Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
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Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
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Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
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Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
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Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
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Title: Re: NJ. BOATING LICENCE??
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