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Offline Mr Limpett

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2012, 09:19:37 PM »
There's nothing wrong with holding your cards close to your vest. There's nothing wrong with being a loner, I am mostly. But if you feel that you don't want to share with other sportspeople, then don't join any blogs, forums or anything where people exchange information. There's nothing wrong with going alone. There are people who like to share, maybe not every single thing, but most places, colors, lure type, techniques, etc. and there's certainly nothing wrong with that either.
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2012, 10:01:24 PM »
There's nothing wrong with holding your cards close to your vest. There's nothing wrong with being a loner, I am mostly. But if you feel that you don't want to share with other sportspeople, then don't join any blogs, forums or anything where people exchange information. There's nothing wrong with going alone. There are people who like to share, maybe not every single thing, but most places, colors, lure type, techniques, etc. and there's certainly nothing wrong with that either.

Try to see the other side though. If you fish a spot your whole life with only a handful of others and someone on a blog joins in, catches a fish, and wants to share by posting the location over the Internet for the whole world to see. How is that fair to the people who fish that spot regularly, that didnt join a forum or blog, but now have crowds of report chasers destroying and ultimately shutting down a spot. I'm not saying its their spot and no one else in the world is allowed in or that posting locations is not helpful. There is a new age of fishermen coming up that want the wisdom of an old salt by doing a quick internet search and then not posting any useful information to reciprocate.  How many one time posters do you see come on here or any other site ask where, when, what, and how and are then never heard from again. I'm specifically referring to land based as the simple fact that there are so many jerk offs that make such a mess out of places that will never be able to afford any sort of boat let alone put gas in it regularly.

I'm very territorial....  ^-^
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2012, 10:59:58 PM »
Hey......I look at it this way....You send a kid to school to learn....and if your always given them the answers on there home work.....They learn nothing.

Well if I keep telling people where to fish.....They will never learn HOW TO FISH

I have been fishing for over 40 years and can read the water....I know just the right place to cast the plug into the feeding zone of fish......This took years of walking the beach and paddling the back waters and a lot of lost sleep.

I see the same names on this site...Day after day......You guys know what I'm talking about.....You all put your time in the same school of fishing as me.

Sorry me to.... IKAT
What is meant by you guys know what I'm talking about. I don't. Bill chrz

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2012, 11:30:39 PM »
First Fluke-u that photo is the Anchor River Anchorage Alaska. on a slow day they are some times 3 deep  cfzd
I thank all for the responses  slt one thing is we all agree sharing is good. helping others is good. And depending on local locations sharing can hurt. giving exact locations such as Numbers can hurt. saying the north side of the mud hole can not. Or a ocean surf location is hit and miss. to post a jetty off 8th ave hurts, limited space. I like taking a ride along the shore from Manasquan up to the tip of the hook, and along the Bay shore most times to keyport and then home. I post what I see in general.
there are not many secrets along that trip. but for a few Jettys, holes, dead end streets, low access areas, little parking, I won't SPOT BURN .
how does the words Spot Burn translate into leaving trash on the beaches.
One Example Union Beach where I fish very regularly,
years ago it was a dump for guys fishing there most from out of town as was I. then it got cleaned up from the parking to trash cans and line disposal containers why people cared and told others to clean up their acts. and I see it all along the bay shore. where many regulars fish. some just can't count or read a ruler  fcp.  So enjoy the fall season on the sand I will, Bill         


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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2012, 02:20:56 PM »
Post a hot spot on the Member den to avoid lurkers is that a good Idea 5hrug

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2012, 04:19:41 PM »
Post a hot spot on the Member den to avoid lurkers is that a good Idea 5hrug

Loose lips sink ships. I can count on one hand who I talk to about specific spots. Two of them are members here
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2012, 04:31:54 PM »
I am a sharer... thats just me!! I like when people I like catch fish and have a good time doing it so yes I tell, share, and hope that they catch fish when I do!


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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2012, 04:37:54 PM »
I am a sharer... thats just me!! I like when people I like catch fish and have a good time doing it so yes I tell, share, and hope that they catch fish when I do!

Same here  t^

But wont ever tell someone about someone elses spot that was told to me in confidence
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2012, 05:14:40 PM »
I think its called networking... Do you think any of these captains would be catching these huge limits if they weren't networking with other boats?  I got called into a bite a few times and I always reciprocate. 

I do agree with the above that, if I am only out 1 day a week, I hate to burn a tank of fuel in search for a good catch.  A little lead is always appreciated. Again, you can be on the exact spot, but you still have to learn the technique to catch these fish.  Think about how many times you are on the same boat as others and some limit out and some don't and you are on the same boat.

I had help from others and will also extend my hand and help others.

We here on NJSWF are networking.  There is a brotherhood here and we share tips, trips, location, and spots.  We are the most helpful fishing site around.  Maybe the fishing reports should be limited to members only and not the entire public.

This is how easy it is to burn a spot.  If you wanna fish on a top notch boat, like the fish monger, all it takes is your smart phone gps to get his exact location and then use it the next day on your own.

I can give you a barrel full of fish, but you still have to use the right bait, rigs and technique to get those fish from your barrel and into your cooler
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2012, 10:12:00 PM »
I think its called networking... Do you think any of these captains would be catching these huge limits if they weren't networking with other boats?  I got called into a bite a few times and I always reciprocate. 

I do agree with the above that, if I am only out 1 day a week, I hate to burn a tank of fuel in search for a good catch.  A little lead is always appreciated. Again, you can be on the exact spot, but you still have to learn the technique to catch these fish.  Think about how many times you are on the same boat as others and some limit out and some don't and you are on the same boat.

I had help from others and will also extend my hand and help others.

We here on NJSWF are networking.  There is a brotherhood here and we share tips, trips, location, and spots.  We are the most helpful fishing site around.  Maybe the fishing reports should be limited to members only and not the entire public.

This is how easy it is to burn a spot.  If you wanna fish on a top notch boat, like the fish monger, all it takes is your smart phone gps to get his exact location and then use it the next day on your own.

I can give you a barrel full of fish, but you still have to use the right bait, rigs and technique to get those fish from your barrel and into your cooler

And then the lurker looks up every other post where they offer all that info up other than the spot. No shortage or what and how on the web.

Really guys, boat fishermen don't seem to mind as much as surfcasters do, particularly those fishing the bay side. The challenge in fishing the backwaters by foot is locating them. 
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2012, 10:51:19 AM »
I'll tell you the area but not the spot. I'm not sharing unless it reciprocated.

 whs

sum's are better than others at recipumrocating...

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2012, 10:54:34 AM »
I can count on one hand who I talk to about specific spots. Two of them are members here

also  whs 

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2012, 11:00:41 AM »
I burned a SPOT ONCE--it was terrible  rgmn

The rest were fine--Just turned the heat down a little and they tasted fine.. ::)

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2012, 11:53:08 AM »
Great post, I have a feeling I know where you are referring too.  Fish are migratory and like most predators they move/hunt regularly or spawn during their biological so I don't think a spot can be burned through fishing (pollution sure).  I believe that fishing pressure definitely will decrease the bites/catch, but if the blues per se are blitzing, they will blitz.  On the other hand, I always, in my ocd head, always thought that the fish were probably smart enough to know to come back after that silly chumming session, for one could see there were probably not many fish caught.  But there was definitely a good amount of bait/chum left behind.............Who knows timing is everything................



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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2012, 01:37:59 PM »
Its funny how the there are people who don't want to burn a spot when asked, but when you see them on the water, there are 100 boats fishing around them already.. WTF..
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2012, 02:29:16 PM »
Its funny how the there are people who don't want to burn a spot when asked, but when you see them on the water, there are 100 boats fishing around them already.. WTF..

I owe you my for my first spring Striper of 2011.  I would never share that spot with anyone since it was given to me in confidentiality.  Bottom line I'd never share someone else's spot given to me.  Outside of that I generally follow the "anchor" rule.  If the spot requires me to drop anchor to be right over a certain  piece of structure, or certain type of bottom that I know yields fish I wouldn't give it up freely over the internet.  I'd certainly share it with friends here on the site though. 

If it's a drift fishing spot then yeah I'll share it.  It's not like there's any rocket science to a drift spot and it's not like people are going to land themselves right on it again.  Plus more often than not a drift spot may be good one day and poor the next.  Last year I made a killing on fluke at the 8 and 9 cans of the raritan reach very early in the season.  Had no problem sharing that spot.  2 weeks later I couldn't find a fish there.  For drift fishing the water temps, tides, moon phase, wind conditions, depth, etc... have far more influence than the actual spot.
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2012, 03:04:52 PM »
refresh my memory.. did I give you a location or my gps readings?
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2012, 03:54:04 PM »
refresh my memory.. did I give you a location or my gps readings?

Yes.  That's how Mike gave me the spot that you gave him...   ;D

  Just kidding Nick t^

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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2012, 04:25:54 PM »
refresh my memory.. did I give you a location or my gps readings?

Yes.  That's how Mike have me the spot that you gave him...   ;D

  Just kidding Nick t^


LOL.. you don't have to kid... Im ok with giving spots to help others.. You helped me also Eddie when i was up that way... Thats what is it all about..
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Re: Can you Burn a fishing spot in New Jersey
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2012, 04:41:28 PM »
Great post, I have a feeling I know where you are referring too.  Fish are migratory and like most predators they move/hunt regularly or spawn during their biological so I don't think a spot can be burned through fishing (pollution sure).  I believe that fishing pressure definitely will decrease the bites/catch, but if the blues per se are blitzing, they will blitz.  On the other hand, I always, in my ocd head, always thought that the fish were probably smart enough to know to come back after that silly chumming session, for one could see there were probably not many fish caught.  But there was definitely a good amount of bait/chum left behind.............Who knows timing is everything................



Cheers,

Mike

Ok, my definition of a spot burn does include catching all the fish out of an area. It's the area itself that gets wrecked by the "inconsiderates" who hear a report and show up and wreck the place by littering, being loud, etc. 
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