What is your point here? Do you have a clear direction? This is not how you rally the troops! This is New Jersey!
Quote from: Capt. Mike on March 07, 2010, 01:49:54 AMWhat is your point here? Do you have a clear direction? This is not how you rally the troops! This is New Jersey!My point,Capt TB,What I care about has nothing to do with the question. I am a reasonable person. When I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it! You should try it! You know or should know, the free registry bill you are pushing has very little chance of ever passing. You should have acted in the best interest of the fishermen you represent and pushed a saltwater license bill. I am sure a saltwater license bill would have passed if everybody was working together. If the US fish and wildlife and the other indicators Hutchjr mentioned are correct about the number of saltwater anglers, the people you represent lost money due to not having a NJ saltwater license. The rest of us lost a lot of good days of fishing. An accurate count of NJ saltwater fishermen could have remove 700,000 theoretical anglers from the water. How much did it cost the charter captain for a closed winter sea bass season? How much did it cost the party boat owner for a closed fall flounder season? It is time to push personal egos to the side, and poll the membership before taking positions on issues such as a saltwater license.The Cape May CO. Charter and Party boat ass, voiced their support of a saltwater license at the NJMFC meeting.The largest saltwater angler ass. in the united states supports a saltwater license.The New Jersey Marine Fisheries council supports a saltwater license.The New Jersey federation of sportsmen's clubs support a saltwater license. All the polls I have seen, that have been taken after long debate on the issue, have favored a NJ saltwater license. How many would have paid for CaptTB's 25 dollar NJ saltwater license for a chance of a winter sea bass season and a greatly increased flounder season?
First,the benefits of a saltwater license are real! What has been accomplished for saltwater fishermen in the southern states through revenue raised via a saltwater license demands recognition.
TB,Are you aware as to what groups oppose a saltwater license? Commercial fishing for sure.
A good bet Green peace and peta. Why,they realize the political power in a group of 500,000 to 1.4 million saltwater anglers defined by a license will possess.
Nothing is free. You get what you pay for!
Quote from: Kensdock on March 10, 2010, 07:39:19 PM I do not pay to be registered as a democrat. My card is FREE. Capt TB your post almost made me teary eye. I will have a Barney Frank poster sent To the office lol
I do not pay to be registered as a democrat. My card is FREE. Capt TB your post almost made me teary eye. I will have a Barney Frank poster sent To the office lol
Quote from: CaptTB on March 10, 2010, 09:06:01 PMQuote from: Kensdock on March 10, 2010, 07:39:19 PM I do not pay to be registered as a democrat. My card is FREE. Capt TB your post almost made me teary eye. I will have a Barney Frank poster sent To the office lolHey hey HHHHEEEEYYYYYYY!!!You left out the first part that said "I don't pay to be registered as a republican"!!!!Sound bite!
Quote from: Kensdock on March 10, 2010, 07:39:19 PM I do not pay to be registered as a democrat. My card is FREE. Capt TB your post almost made me teary eye. I will have a Barney Frank poster sent To the office lolHey hey HHHHEEEEYYYYYYY!!!You left out the first part that said "I don't pay to be registered as a republican"!!!!Sound bite!
I do not pay to be registered as a democrat. My card is FREE. Capt TB your post almost made me teary eye. I will have a Barney Frank poster sent To the office lolHey hey HHHHEEEEYYYYYYY!!!You left out the first part that said "I don't pay to be registered as a republican"!!!!Sound bite!
Quote from: Kensdock on March 10, 2010, 07:39:19 PMFirst,the benefits of a saltwater license are real! What has been accomplished for saltwater fishermen in the southern states through revenue raised via a saltwater license demands recognition. Sorry, but whomever told you that you had to PAY to be recognized also tried to sell you this really nice bridge for sale. You see, if I have a card that says I belong to a group of fishermen, I have been counted, and am therefore a KNOWN voting block. I don't pay to be registered as a republican, I do not pay to be registered as a democrat. My card is FREE. Your card COSTS MONEY. They both serve the EXACT SAME PURPOSE is providing a KNOWN UNIVERSE of anglers and...wait for it.....VOTERS!! Difference is Kenny boy, you were dumb enough to volunteer to pay for something you could have had for free!!!But yes, those southern states have lots of great things.Like closed season for sea bass.Like closed season for Amberjack.Like closed season for Red Snapper.Like closed waters FROM NORTH CAROLINA TO FLORIDA for ALL BOTTOM FISHING. Yessirree! Those license fees did a whole lot for them uh huh! Yep, and they did not even hold onto their license fees!!! VA governor took hundreds of thousands out of their license fees! Look it up Kenny, it is public record. Oh, and they did not lose ONE RED CENT of federal matching funds. Sorry, nice try with the whole BS "protected funds" line.NY lost over 3 MILLION dollars in funding from the state, cause now they have a license that generates same. So, in the end, they gained ZERO DOLLARS!! Except, fishermen get to pay more anyway!!!Oh and the lifetime license from NY??? Money does NOT go into fisheries fund, sorry, only yearly license sales. Buy for life, money wasted!!!!Shall we go on?Please, let's!!QuoteTB,Are you aware as to what groups oppose a saltwater license? Commercial fishing for sure.WRONG!!Had you actually ever been involved in ANY fisheries management whatsoever you would know that the commercial sector as a whole has been pushing for both licensing of, and subsequent limited entry of the recreational sector FOR YEARS!! Look it up kenny boy, it is in the administrative record for at LEAST the past decade in the Mid Atlantic and New England. You really have no clue what you are talking about! I SAT AT THE TABLE while commercial interests have pushed for a license mandate. Where were you? QuoteA good bet Green peace and peta. Why,they realize the political power in a group of 500,000 to 1.4 million saltwater anglers defined by a license will possess. See above.QuoteNothing is free. You get what you pay for!I got a better one..."A fool and his money are soon parted."Obviously the original author of that quote knew you personally.
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